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French launch bid to rewrite history books w/claim that Lindbergh was NOT first to fly/the Atlantic
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 11-13=10 | "reporter"

Posted on 11/13/2010 5:17:28 AM PST by atomic conspiracy

Charles Lindbergh is renowned as the first person to fly across the Atlantic, but according to new research, he was beaten to the achievement ten days earlier. According to French aviation enthusiast Bernard Decré, Lindbergh was only the first to complete the crossing and survive, with two French pilots believed to have reached the coast of Canada ten days before Lindbergh's Spirit of St Louis touched down in Paris in May 1927. New documentary evidence found in the U.S. national archives may prove that Charles Nungesser and Francois Coli completed a transatlantic crossing and were the first men to do so, though they were likely killed in the process. The fate of Nungesser and Coli has been called the 'Everest of aviation mysteries' with their disappearance sparking a raft of conspiracy theories, including speculation that their sea plane, L'Oiseau Blanc, was shot down by Maine bootleggers who feared police surveillance. But the discovery of a U.S. Coast Guard telegram which tells of the wreckage of a white aircraft seen floating some 200 miles off the New York coast on August 18 1927 could have solved the riddle - and changed Lindbergh's role in the history books. The American aviator successfully flew the Spirit of St Louis from New York to Le Bourget in France on May 20-12 1927, winning a $25,000 prize offered by hotelier Raymond Orteig as well as claiming the U.S. Medal of Honour and the French Legion d'Honneur. Yet according to Mr Decré, 70, Lindbergh's triumph - and the improved U.S.-Franco relations that followed - was only made possible by a cover-up of the fateful flight of L'Oiseau Blanc. Wrecked: Documentary evidence tells of the remains of a white plane, possibly Nungesser and Coli's L'Oiseau Blanc (pictured), being found 200 miles off the New York coast

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charleslindbergh; dumb; endzonefumble; france; frogs; germany; godsgravesglyphs; strawman
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To: atomic conspiracy

“It was also the first solo flight across the Atlantic”

That’s how I remember it being put.


21 posted on 11/13/2010 5:39:58 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Lindbergh's many personal shortcomings do not change the facts of history. Even if they did, and we also exclude the solo qualification, precedence would go to Americans Clarence Chamberlain and Charles Levine, who flew from New York to Eisleben Germany a few weeks after Lindbergh and got there alive.
22 posted on 11/13/2010 5:40:04 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Thanks for the correction.

50 year-old memories can be treacherous.

Hell, remembering what I had for lunch yesterday can be a challenge!


23 posted on 11/13/2010 5:40:15 AM PST by Scanian
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To: cripplecreek
That last word seems important.

Yeah, surviving does make a big difference, LOL.

24 posted on 11/13/2010 5:41:54 AM PST by IndyTiger
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To: Brookhaven

“know any landing you can walk away from is a good landing”

I’ve never liked this saying. Doesn’t everyone realize planes cost money? How is crashing them a good thing, even if you walk away?


25 posted on 11/13/2010 5:42:27 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Big Mack

Landing a dead man on the Moon wouldn’t have been much of an achievement, and we would look like fools or French journalists if we claimed that it trumped a later flight by someone who got back alive.


26 posted on 11/13/2010 5:43:37 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

“Charles Lindbergh is renowned as the first person to fly across the Atlantic, but according to new research, he was beaten to the achievement ten days earlier.”

Don’t you love it when people spice up stories by pulling myths out of thin air and debunking them? Lucky Lindy (the flying fool) has always been, to my knowledge, renowned as the first person to fly solo across the Atlantic.

Now I hear he was the first to fly across the Atlantic period.

But wait, he wasn’t. There were these other guys.

Oh, but they died. So I guess he was.

Ugh, what a waste of time.


27 posted on 11/13/2010 5:47:21 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: atomic conspiracy

I think you have to live in order to collect the prize.


28 posted on 11/13/2010 5:50:25 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: atomic conspiracy

My history book says it was a guy named Mohammed.


29 posted on 11/13/2010 5:53:18 AM PST by MNDude (And we were SO close to acheiving utopia)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Plus, didn’t he support the Germans during WWII?


30 posted on 11/13/2010 5:54:37 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: MNDude

...on his magic carpet.


31 posted on 11/13/2010 5:56:33 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Tublecane
I love the picture caption:

"Pioneers: New evidence suggest Charles Nungesser and Francois Coli may have died after successfully completing a transatlantic flight in 1927"

By this standard, poor Lt/Col Custer died after successfully attacking an Indian encampment.

32 posted on 11/13/2010 5:56:49 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: atomic conspiracy
Article sucks. Lindy was not the first to fly across the Atlantic. Many had done so prior to him. He was the first to do it SOLO.
33 posted on 11/13/2010 5:58:02 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (What flavor Kool-aid are you drinking?)
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To: Scanian

Mexican?


34 posted on 11/13/2010 5:59:16 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (What flavor Kool-aid are you drinking?)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Close...I did make some Caribbean-style beans to go with rice and boneless pork ribs.

But I had to think real hard to remember.


35 posted on 11/13/2010 6:11:56 AM PST by Scanian
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To: atomic conspiracy

“By this standard, poor Lt/Col Custer died after successfully attacking an Indian encampment.”

LOL


36 posted on 11/13/2010 6:12:26 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: atomic conspiracy
Based on what I've read about Nungesser,* I doubt he'd appreciate some advocate going around padding his accomplishments or denigrating someone else's. His luck ran out, Lindbergh's didn't.

Mr. niteowl77

*His WWI career is sadly overlooked today.

37 posted on 11/13/2010 6:14:11 AM PST by niteowl77 (I don't mind them stewing in their own juices, but I object to them stewing me in their own juices.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

not only that, I just saw his biography on TV...the guy had 3 women by whom he had a load of children in Germany..while still married to Anne Morrow Lindbergh.

He felt he had those superior Aryan genes and wanted to make sure they were dispersed as much as possible for posterity.

What a piece of work.


38 posted on 11/13/2010 6:15:09 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: atomic conspiracy
Well Mr. Decré, we have a saying in this country.

Close only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades.

39 posted on 11/13/2010 6:16:00 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: atomic conspiracy
It was more like 80

About 80 and a kitteh *The R34 had a cat on the crew list

40 posted on 11/13/2010 6:18:32 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx)
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