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Pentagon: Elements in Pakistani Intelligence Agency Support Terror
Fox News ^ | October 07, 2010 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 10/07/2010 2:10:59 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded

The Pentagon acknowledged Thursday that some parts of Pakistan's intelligence agency are cooperating with terrorist groups as a new report suggests Inter-Service Intelligence agents are working to undermine U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan. Spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said the Pakistan intelligence service as an organization does not support terrorism, but some elements within the ISI are providing assistance to terrorists.

U.S. officials have raised concerns about whether some members of the ISI "might be interacting with terrorist organizations in ways that aren't consistent with what the government and military are doing," Lapan said. Lapan was responding after a report in The Wall Street Journal that suggested the ISI is pushing the Taliban to keep fighting in Afghanistan, undermining efforts by the Pentagon to end the war. The Journal quotes an Afghan commander in Kunar province who said the ISI is still urging and paying Taliban to fight NATO soldiers. Pakistan's top military leadership is working to correct the problem, Lapan said, but "like any large organization, change is difficult and comes slowly."

"The ISI has done a great deal in fighting terrorism. Some have said they probably have killed more terrorists than any other organization. But we also have some concerns with the strategic focus of the ISI," Lapan said. Lapan spoke as U.S.-Pakistani relations remain strained over the effort to end the Taliban's use of Pakistan as a safe haven to launch attacks into Afghanistan.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; afghanistan; nato; obama; pakistan; pentagon; taliban; whiskytangofoxtrot

1 posted on 10/07/2010 2:11:03 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded
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To: Eyes Unclouded

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2 posted on 10/07/2010 2:12:14 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded; SunkenCiv; AdmSmith

Trying to ping you guys before the usual “LETS JUST NUKE EM ALL” crowd spams this thread.

This is a pretty big deal IMHO as now our military has admitted it knows about this. Supposedly our doctrine is to be opposed to state sponsorship of terror anywhere. Yet these guys are doing it against our own forces with our own money!

It would be funny if it weren’t so damn sad.


3 posted on 10/07/2010 2:15:09 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Way, way old news. Whoever wrote this article for Fox News needs to keep up with the times.


4 posted on 10/07/2010 2:15:18 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Really? No sh!t Sherlock.


5 posted on 10/07/2010 2:15:25 PM PDT by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: Eyes Unclouded
The blind squirrels in the Pentagon have finally found (or more likely just publicly admitted the long known fact) the nut of Pakistani support for terrorism and the Taliban.
6 posted on 10/07/2010 2:24:46 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Grblb blabt unt mipt speeb!! Oot piffoo blaboo...)
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To: KarlInOhio
....my dog has known about this for years now....

....the real news is that the WH has allowed the Pentagon acknowledge it publicly....

....but then again....

....it is October....

7 posted on 10/07/2010 2:31:47 PM PDT by cyberaxe (....Uuuummpphhhh.....)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Lol. The CIA could have told the Pentagon this well before 9/11/2001. I’m not sure this is breaking news to anyone who knows anything about Afghanastan.


8 posted on 10/07/2010 2:32:58 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (3)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Talk about stating the obvious.

As some would say...no duh!

But with Obama and his ilk, you have to wonder which "ones" he's talking about and what his definition of terrorism really is. Is it the type from Islamic Jihadists that he thinks we can "absorb"? or is it the United States itself which he believes has terrorized the world and somehow brought i on ourselves as his extreme leftist/marxist background would try and foist on us?

The Audacity of Truth about Barack Hussein "Imam" Obama

The Audacity of Truth about Barack Hussein Obama's Upbringing

9 posted on 10/07/2010 2:33:28 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: KarlInOhio

It isn’t new information. Anyone with a history book can read that after the Soviets pulled out the ISI created to take over and has been working with them ever since. My only hope is that publicaly breaking the news is part a of a strategy to break the ISI-Taliban axis. Of course I have very little confidence in this.

At the very least it is now public proof that the Pentagon knows who is attacking our forces. If they don’t act to stop this they should be held accountable.


10 posted on 10/07/2010 2:34:24 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

islamists all. And we know what needs be done with islamists.

But let´s pretend we don´t, like we´re doing now. Just step into this suicide machine.


11 posted on 10/07/2010 2:36:55 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Rule #1: If it bows towards Mecca, it's trying to kill us.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

12 posted on 10/07/2010 2:39:58 PM PDT by The Comedian ("Progressive" is a code word for "Pending nitrogen cycle contributor")
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Ah am on ze Pakistani case, Non?


13 posted on 10/07/2010 2:41:16 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Haven’t we known this for decades??


14 posted on 10/07/2010 2:41:16 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

No shit.


15 posted on 10/07/2010 2:42:07 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: Eyes Unclouded
The Pentagon acknowledged Thursday that some parts of Pakistan's intelligence agency are cooperating with terrorist groups as a new report suggests Inter-Service Intelligence agents are working to undermine U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan.

The only news worthy item in this statement is "The Pentagon acknowledged....", as evident by the statements on this thread. The question is, why did the Pentagon acknowledge it?

16 posted on 10/07/2010 2:46:51 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Eyes Unclouded; SunkenCiv; AdmSmith; Lurker
Dateline: Washington, DC: October 7, 1971

"Pakis No Pals of Ours," says Pentagon Spokesman.

I must admit to extreme prejudice. I once lost a whole paycheck betting on the Paki military in their dust-up with India. My stupid bet was overly influenced by their Air Force, which did OK, or rather held its own. But the Indians made embarrassingly short work of their army, which at the time looked like the BEF at Ypres, as did the Indians. The Paki Field Hockey Team was absolutely superb, however. Of course, they are also good at Squash.

They are horrible at loyalty to their allies in West and need a good boot up the Quran, right now.

17 posted on 10/07/2010 2:47:10 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Revive The Poll Tax and Literacy Requirement for voter registration.)
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To: ScreamingFist
The question is, why did the Pentagon acknowledge it?

....as is always the case,CiC allowed it....

....my question is why CiC allowed it?....

18 posted on 10/07/2010 2:50:53 PM PDT by cyberaxe (....Uuuummpphhhh.....)
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To: cyberaxe
....as is always the case,CiC allowed it.... ....my question is why CiC allowed it?....

Touche!....;)

19 posted on 10/07/2010 2:54:24 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Eyes Unclouded; dr_who; GeronL; GOPGuide; Jeff Head; ChinaThreat; rbg81; Parley Baer; Lurker; ...

Us here? Sure this isn’t news to us. Do your friends know? Do you have any friends with family in the military? Do they know? Do you know anyone in a tea party? Do they know? Do you know anyone in congress? Do they know?

I flagged this breaking news because now instead of the conversation being derailed with “Oh EyesUnclouded you crazy news junkie conspiracy theorist quit spoiling our BBQ!” you can point to the fact that the Pentagon has officially said this. How can we as a country make the same, literally the same, mistakes that doomed our efforts in SE Asia only a few decades ago?

The Taliban predicted in 2001 we would pull out and they would just come back into power. Are we going to let that happen? It seems like it. Karzai (who is only in power because we put him there) is making moves to integrate them back into the government! We have announced pullout dates starting next year! We haven’t slapped any kind of sanction on Pakistan!

It isn’t just the Islamists either. China is growing in power and is using its influence on the world stage in increasingly worrying ways. They would love to expand their, already worrying, influence in Pakistan after we leave. After 9/11 happened we said we would do what it takes and all put flags on our cars. I’ve looked around. 90% of those flags are gone and now we are just going to walk away and put the Taliban in charge again? What about people who lost limbs and/or life over there? Sorry? Better luck next time?

This should be as big, if not bigger, an issue than spending or tax cuts.


20 posted on 10/07/2010 2:57:50 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

The surprise would be if the Pentagon is really just figuring this out.


21 posted on 10/07/2010 3:03:26 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
How can we as a country make the same, literally the same, mistakes that doomed our efforts in SE Asia only a few decades ago?

Because we have bad leadership, even worse than Vietnam. If Fist was King for a day, we would bring our heros home, and if any of these 7th century barbarians dare hit us again, a neutron bomb would be the answer, after the second one they would take care of the taliban problem themselves....

22 posted on 10/07/2010 3:09:57 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: cyberaxe
...the real news is that the WH has allowed the Pentagon acknowledge it publicly.... ....but then again.... ....it is October....

Look for a major terrorist incident on or before the election, which Obama will blame upon the Republicans stirring up the Muzzies with their hateful rhetoric.

23 posted on 10/07/2010 3:49:14 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Let me guess: it’s the Muslim elements within the ISI?


24 posted on 10/07/2010 4:02:35 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Eyes Unclouded

We should just nuke ‘em all.

:)


25 posted on 10/07/2010 4:44:45 PM PDT by I Hate Obama ("Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party." -Forest Gump)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Easy man. I was making light of the fact that it was finally officially acknowledged. I didn’t mean it as an attack. I do think only us news junkies will know what it means. The sheep want to know who is on American Idol. I think it’s probably not a good move to do the work that needs to be done against the ISI in such a public fashion. We just radicalized a few more of them.


26 posted on 10/07/2010 5:12:28 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (3)
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To: ChinaThreat
>>The CIA could have told the Pentagon this well before 9/11/2001.
 
 
Uh yeah, like back in 1978...

27 posted on 10/07/2010 6:45:53 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Eyes Unclouded; Kenny Bunk
Thanks!
28 posted on 10/07/2010 8:45:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Pakistan is working with terrorists?

I could have told you that for free.


29 posted on 10/07/2010 10:45:20 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

The sun rises in the east and sets in the west, too.


30 posted on 10/08/2010 1:07:14 AM PDT by Nextrush (Slocialist Republicans and Socialist Democrats need to go)
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To: cyberaxe
my question is why CiC allowed it?

He's in a hurry.

American actions were "obviously" linked to Obama's decision to set a timetable for leaving Afghanistan. The US leader had "jumped the gun" and now "the Americans are in a hurry."
Barack Obama accused of exaggerating terror threat for political gain
31 posted on 10/08/2010 2:44:20 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Other than incorporating Pakistan into its territory, China needs to do little to expand its influence in Islamabad. The generals there trust Beijing more than Washington and have done so for half a century.


32 posted on 10/08/2010 4:37:36 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Eyes Unclouded; dr_who; GeronL; GOPGuide; Jeff Head; ChinaThreat; rbg81; Parley Baer; Lurker; ...
Gentlemen, please. No more criticism of Pakistan, our quaint and colorful ally. They have threatened to cut off their major export to the West.

i.e., surly convenience store clerks. With a snap of their nicotine-stained fingers, Palkistan's leaders could cut off late-night milk supplies amd last-minute lottery tickets, throwing the US into total chaos.

33 posted on 10/08/2010 10:16:50 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Revive The Poll Tax and Literacy Requirement for voter registration.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

BTW, it’s now pronounced POCK-ee-stahn, according to oiur POTUS who spent many a happy vacation there. Speaking of which, isn’t our fearlessly ineligible leader about due for another break? It’s been literally days now since he has left his wearisome burdens of state for some much needed rest.


34 posted on 10/08/2010 10:19:55 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Revive The Poll Tax and Literacy Requirement for voter registration.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

My god. Where will we get our midnight munchies from?!


35 posted on 10/08/2010 10:39:08 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Mostly Arkansas, according to Hillary.


36 posted on 10/09/2010 7:42:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Lurker

Damun, beat me to it. LOL. Not funny but to say this is like saying Ice Cream cones melt in the hot sun, or moderate muslims are only moderate muslims until they become radical terrorist muslims...eh but we’re only at war with Al Qaeda, all seven of them.


37 posted on 10/09/2010 8:54:46 AM PDT by Karliner (Now this is not the end. .... But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning, Churchill 1942)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Dang, I’m shucked, whowoulda thunk the Pakistanis support terror?

Well, I’m positively sure that none of the aid money sent to their military has ended up in the hands of jihadis killing Americans.

I’m sure our government would never countenance anything like that.


38 posted on 10/12/2010 11:43:46 AM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes!Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: Kenny Bunk

>I once lost a whole paycheck betting on the Paki military in their dust-up with India.

Psst, next time bet on the Pakistani Cricket team.


39 posted on 10/12/2010 11:47:39 AM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes!Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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