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To wipe out whooping cough, create a better vaccine
The Washington Post ^ | October 2, 2010 | Miranda Walker

Posted on 10/02/2010 9:06:51 AM PDT by RogerFGay

As a Californian and a student studying public health, I find the whooping cough resurgence in California extremely troubling ["Whooping cough makes a comeback," Health and Science, Sept. 28].

People who refuse to be vaccinated, though misguided, are easy scapegoats, but they are not the driving force behind this trend. In the short term, more needs to be done to encourage booster vaccines in teens and adults to protect the most vulnerable: infants too young to be vaccinated.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: buildafence; health; immigration; vaccinations; vaccines; whoopingcough
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Thanks, I appreciate your info. I was planning to begin some of his shots at the next appointment. Maybe I’ll do all.


21 posted on 10/02/2010 12:05:15 PM PDT by Spudx7
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To: aNYCguy
If you would stop and think for one second, you'd realized that the only reason immigrants might bring these diseases into the country is that they are less likely to have been vaccinated.

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking. If we don't control who is in the US and what their health and vaccination record is, we'll have to keep poisoning our kids with stronger vaccines. It's one of the best arguments for stopping the invasion and sending home those who are here illegally.

22 posted on 10/02/2010 12:32:53 PM PDT by grania
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To: Mase
This is a bigger part of the problem than open borders. The anti-vaccine crowd is larger than most people realize. Ship of fools.

Did I EVER say I was anti-vaccine? I'm anti having stronger, potentially dangerous vaccines to protect us from the invasion. The answer isn't to fight the diseases the invaders bring with them, it's to keep the invaders out of the US. We'll never keep up with new, more lethal diseases as they emerge if we don't control who's in the US.

Just like with swine flu. Instead of closing the border with Mexico when it first emerged and before it spread, we all had to put up with fear of a spreading disease, isolation situations, and the unknowns of a new vaccine. Why?....because obviously Mexicans are more important to this administration than are US citizens.

23 posted on 10/02/2010 12:38:46 PM PDT by grania
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To: oh8eleven

If you’d had a child who was severely vaccine-damaged, maybe you wouldn’t be so nasty.


24 posted on 10/02/2010 12:40:56 PM PDT by Politicalmom (A BIG TENT analogy isn’t the correct one. The correct one is a MAGNET.-Fred Thompson)
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To: metmom

Ping!!


25 posted on 10/02/2010 12:50:15 PM PDT by Politicalmom (A BIG TENT analogy isn’t the correct one. The correct one is a MAGNET.-Fred Thompson)
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To: Spudx7

If you have any more questions talk them over with doctors. They’ll have heard them all before many times and should have good answers. I have nothing against sometimes following emotions. They can guide us when there’s no time to think things through or when we lack the information to think things through. But emoting without thinking is potentially dangerous, so we must remain on alert. It’s the first step on the road to Democrats.


26 posted on 10/02/2010 1:06:21 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Tear down that BARACK-ade!)
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To: Spudx7

I agree. I think we may be overwhelming kids with too many at once.

Also, I think it is foolish to think that any disease in all its forms has truly been “wiped out”. I question all the data from dictatorial regimes; and even whether wiping out a disease in all its forms is possible.

(IE, ceasing to vaccinate against smallpox may leave the next generation at risk.)


27 posted on 10/02/2010 1:41:37 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Politicalmom

Reality sux don’t it.


28 posted on 10/02/2010 4:56:27 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: exDemMom
That is a direct consequence of parents refusing to vaccinate their children.

Bullstuff!

The vaccine is not an immunization. It works 80% of the time, for 3-5 years. It confers some immunity some of the time, but not for long.

Every teenager and adult in this country, unless they have been revaccinated in the last 5 years, could easily contract whooping cough. So do NOT place blame on parents who didn't vaccinate their kids. There are more older people who have no immunity to pertussis than there are unvaccinated kids, by damn far.

Remember that freedom means you do not have to submit to vaccines, also.

29 posted on 10/02/2010 5:03:14 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Spudx7

Unless you have your baby in group daycare, I would NOT vaccinate her on the pediatric schedule. It is INSANE and just begging for autoimmune chronic conditions or worse. Never has this amount of neuro-adjuvants, viruses, preservatives, and media been injected into the helpless immune systems of our newborns.

Read Dr. Jay Gordon on vaccination. He has his own schedule for vaccinating. He is not a conservative but he IS conservative with our infants’ bodies, unlike some people here.

http://drjaygordon.com/category/vaccinations


30 posted on 10/02/2010 5:08:39 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Spudx7

the very same thing that happened to your two year old happened to two of my sons, you were lucky though, your daughter returned to normal. my boys will never be ‘normal’ again.

parents need to do their research, this is happening more and more frequently.


31 posted on 10/02/2010 5:13:28 PM PDT by sfimom
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To: Yaelle
The vaccine is not an immunization. It works 80% of the time, for 3-5 years. It confers some immunity some of the time, but not for long.

Every teenager and adult in this country, unless they have been revaccinated in the last 5 years, could easily contract whooping cough. So do NOT place blame on parents who didn't vaccinate their kids. There are more older people who have no immunity to pertussis than there are unvaccinated kids, by damn far.

Remember that freedom means you do not have to submit to vaccines, also.

The best information about the pertussis vaccine is here:

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/pertussis/default.htm#vacc

I have no idea how to make a link, but you can always copy and paste into the browser.

No vaccine is 100% effective, but the theory behind vaccinating as much of the population as possible for any specific disease is to reduce incidence to the point that even if one person does get sick despite vaccination, the chances of them coming into contact with other susceptible people are so low that an epidemic is effectively prevented.

It seems to be a fact of life that eliminating the spread of infectious disease has always taken priority over freedom. That's why Typhoid Mary was confined to a sanitorium from 1915 until her death in 1938, and why, prior to widespread vaccination, people with certain diseases were placed under quarantine in their houses, no contact with anyone allowed. If you send your kids to school, where they are in contact with other kids, the vaccination requirements are as much to protect the other kids as to protect yours. You simply do not have the freedom to place others' health or lives at jeapardy.

32 posted on 10/02/2010 6:06:23 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: oh8eleven

I guess I’m one of those so-called wakos!
After one of my girls had siezures for 3 days after her “BABY” shots which btw several other babies around that time also did. Though they tried hard to hush it up....MPMs talk!
I stopped with the vaccines until I was threatened (with the lie) that my twins couldn’t start school without them and boy-twin incurred all three kinds of measles from the measles!!!
Do you even know or for that matter CARE what’s in them or who makes them?
And you dare call me wako!


33 posted on 10/02/2010 9:06:47 PM PDT by bog trotter
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To: Mase

ship of FOOLS??
Count my doctor in..
When my son whacked his head on a dumpster in the schoolyard I took him in for stitches and when the DOCTOR asked if he’d had his shots and I said no, he replied ? Good for you, my nephew is permanently brain damaged form the DPT.


34 posted on 10/02/2010 9:11:52 PM PDT by bog trotter
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To: RogerFGay

I dunno, it seems this vaccine was pretty effective for many years.

There is an increasingly large pool of non-vaccinated adults and children in California, due, in part, to illgal immigration.

There’s also a number of parents who are declining vaccination for thier children , due to fear of autism.

I’ll bet that whooping cough is resurgent in those groups.


35 posted on 10/03/2010 1:27:49 AM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that Obama will resign)
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To: bog trotter
And you dare call me wako!
Your reply speaks volumes.
36 posted on 10/03/2010 6:13:12 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: grania
Did I EVER say I was anti-vaccine?

Uh, when you said:

Vaccines are much more effective today than in the past and the population has fewer negative reactions to them than in the past. The very thing you fear has caused efficacy to improve and negative reactions to plummet.

37 posted on 10/03/2010 8:24:45 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: bog trotter
Count my doctor in..

Your doctor was pleased your son hadn't had a tetanus shot?

Looks like you guys are gonna need a bigger ship.

38 posted on 10/03/2010 8:26:32 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
I'm still opposed in principle to needing more vaccines and stronger vaccines to counteract diseases that will just get worse. I can't believe that as the numbers of vaccines increase, the chance for interactions doesn't also increase.

Meanwhile we have an invader population, and unless the kids are in school, who knows what vaccinations they have had.

39 posted on 10/03/2010 11:40:59 AM PDT by grania
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To: neverdem

ping


40 posted on 10/03/2010 2:06:40 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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