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Energy Department Says It Has ‘Mandate’ to Force ‘Market Transformation’ for Household Appliances
CNSNews ^ | September 17, 2010 | Penny Starr

Posted on 09/17/2010 2:43:45 PM PDT by jazusamo

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To: Jackson57
“The fourth one, which the secretary and I love,” said Zoi, “is where we have a mandate. Where we can actually just issue regulations and do market transformation.”

Kid found a new toy.

We've got too many damned "mandates" in this government. Just about any department seems to be able to make laws because idiot congress gave them the right. Time to shut this nonsense down!

101 posted on 09/17/2010 5:43:29 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: AndyJackson

Wow, that’s just incredible. Does anyone see anything resembling a private sector business in that 2nd to the last paragraph? They claim one, but I don’t see one.


102 posted on 09/17/2010 6:05:04 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: jazusamo

Let me give a shining example of envirowackiness that has become so commonplace, that I doubt many make notice of it any more. Or else, there is something fundamental that I just don’t get.

Last weekend I picked up at a street fair a couple of thick promotional drink coasters of a local bank. Made of something that feels like hard cardboard. On them is printed the bank’s name and logo, and the assurance that they were made of “100% recyclable materials”. Fine. Turn them around and see a sign saying they were Made in China. In China? Why would the Chinese care to announce that these throwaway things were 100% recyclable? Well, because that was what the Americans specified in the manufacturing order, yes? To impress me. To ease my environmentally concerned conscience. But. Can we trust the Chinese that the statement is true? Who’s checking? Knowing what we know of Chinese manufacturing practices, I’d sooner bet that they were made of asbestos with a generous dose of DDT to glue it together and keep the moquitos away. Still, that’s a minor point.

The big point is the amount of energy expended to transport these things from China to the U.S., the environmental “damage” done to do it (big container ships polluting the oceans bringing containers filled with drink coasters, imagine), and all the “bad” things done to Mother Earth to give away such trinkets at a street fair, trinkets which could well have been made by hand or with simple tools by homeless persons right here where they live under the local freeway. But hey, we’re saving Mother Earth, let’s not think about it too much. Unexamined life is worth living in self-righteous bliss!


103 posted on 09/17/2010 6:23:01 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: FreedomPoster
Does anyone see anything resembling a private sector business in that 2nd to the last paragraph

That is the whole thing about these collectivist apparatchiks. They have no clue what it means to offer, sell and then provide a product or service in a free market where others readily and voluntarily partake of your service or product, willingly parting with hard earned and scarce cash in exchange. They don't understand that a free market means that you also have the right to abstain from the market, you know, like a free market for health care.

104 posted on 09/17/2010 7:22:37 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: freedomtrail; taxtruth
Nixon,maybe?

You won't believe it when I tell you - ready - Jimmy Carter. Remember the gas embargo. He had a solution - shale oil - and voila the DOE. See how much shale oil we use now.

Before DOE we had Energy Research and Development Aministration (ERDA), which Nixon created - which was the AEC with some additional energy research missions, but without the energy regulatory or subsidy parts of the present DOE.

105 posted on 09/17/2010 7:30:03 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: jazusamo
Hello? EPA? Transform this!


106 posted on 09/17/2010 8:03:07 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: jazusamo
appliance standards that are going to save the American public somewhere between $250 billion and $300 billion over the next 20 years

Yay! Then they can just raise our taxes by that much to make sure we don't pocket one penny of our "savings". Besides, unemployed people aren't going to be able to buy these new products. Did they factor the unemployment rate into the "savings"?

107 posted on 09/17/2010 8:17:33 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: jazusamo
“That’s an existing statute that this department of energy is going to make work really hard,” Zoi said. “We’ve already issued appliance standards that are going to save the American public somewhere between $250 billion and $300 billion over the next 20 years just by getting the crummy stuff off the market.”

Uh, Ms. Meddling Tyrant, maam? Every time we use less of some utility such as water or electricity, they find that they're making less money, run to the oversight board, ramble on about how some of their costs are fixed so they want to raise the rates so they make the same money while providing US with less product.

So you're saddling us with more expensive, probably less reliable products with less robust designs, which will no doubt be difficult to impossible to service ourselves, in addition to STEALING our FREEDOM to make our own buying decisions, all in an effort to save us money you'll then allow the utility to confiscate from us in the form of increased rates????? And which even if we got to keep it would probably be less than the premium we'll now have no choice about paying up front? What would we ever do without you?

108 posted on 09/17/2010 8:20:56 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


109 posted on 09/17/2010 8:22:54 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: SatinDoll

What is a secondary market?


110 posted on 09/17/2010 8:26:06 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SatinDoll
Yep, we’re seriously considering the 500 mile drive ourselves.

Won't they ship? I live in Arizona. :-( OTOH, Mexico is an hour away, and I'll bet they have working ones too.

111 posted on 09/17/2010 8:27:45 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: muawiyah

At the very least, we need to strip the energy dept, AND the EPA of these “powers” that they in truth DO NOT HAVE! But no one is stopping them, yet.


112 posted on 09/17/2010 8:28:08 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: freedomtrail; taxtruth
Nixon,maybe? not sure and im to lazy too look it up.

Yeah, Nix-on-Dick started it and Bush II elevated it to cabinet level! Oy! If we could just get some Pubbies in office we wouldn't have to deal with all this crap. Oh, wait...

113 posted on 09/17/2010 8:31:55 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Me too, Madame! Trying to pick away at getting the curtains done for fall cleaning. Linen curtains need HOT irons! Couple that with not being able to find many of the common product in stores (like starch) and having to order them online. Of course that means shipping charges, GRRRR I am not in a good mood after all the trouble just to do a routine chore!


114 posted on 09/17/2010 8:37:48 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SteamShovel

You may be right. But I never expected the current ones to last so long, either.


115 posted on 09/17/2010 9:32:37 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: gidget7

Secondary market is sales of used merchandise at: estate sales, garage sales, Goodwill, or Ebay.

And it doesn’t have to be actually used to be listed as used. I’ve bought items on Ebay with the tags still attached - paid pennies on the dollar. $350 mens dress shoes, still in the box with unworn soles, selling for $30 - great deals do exist.


116 posted on 09/17/2010 9:37:44 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Madame Dufarge

I have a Europro Iron that’s connected to a tank. The water is heated in this tank and fed to the iron through a hose. It is very hot and the steam can blast out about 2 - 3 feet. I love it.


117 posted on 09/17/2010 10:26:18 PM PDT by mia
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To: jazusamo

Obama’s plan is to throw us over the edge, utilizing his policy makers as a weapon of mass destruction.


118 posted on 09/17/2010 10:47:08 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Evils within America: Islam_Socialism_illegal immigration_Gangbangers_)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

WE know what is best for you!


119 posted on 09/18/2010 5:17:26 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Victory or Death)
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To: STONEWALLS
From the American Spectator's website:

Watch the Stossel segment below and you'll see how Serious got some high profile endorsements from President Obama and Vice President Biden, which is suspicious because the company's vice president for policy is married to the overseer of President Obama's weatherization program, Cathy Zoi. Amazingly, Serious Materials was the only "green" window company to receive some recent tax credits from the federal government.

Ms. Zoi may want to seek some legal counsel.


120 posted on 09/18/2010 6:04:26 AM PDT by snowsislander (In this election year, please ask your candidates if they support repeal of the 1968 GCA.)
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