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Energy Department Says It Has ‘Mandate’ to Force ‘Market Transformation’ for Household Appliances
CNSNews ^ | September 17, 2010 | Penny Starr

Posted on 09/17/2010 2:43:45 PM PDT by jazusamo

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To: Still Thinking
Nix-on-Dick started it and Bush II elevated it to cabinet level

Nixon started ERDA which was the AEC (nuclear weapons) with additional energy research at the laboratories that the AEC had built. With the oil crisis, Jimmy Carter expanded its powers into the DOE by adding the federal energy regulatory commission and a number of applied energy programs, including the biggest of all, shale oil, which program went the way of the dodo.

121 posted on 09/18/2010 8:05:01 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: txhurl

Have you seen this crap?


122 posted on 09/18/2010 8:32:20 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Borax Queen

I was working in Mass and I was staying with a working partner at his house, ultra lib fascists, and the guys wife looked just like her. A clone.


123 posted on 09/18/2010 10:26:32 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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124 posted on 09/18/2010 2:23:29 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: DannyTN

It’s already here. The new washers do not work as well as the older ones, so you have to set the cycle to heavy-duty clean to get things clean. That means it bascially beats your clothes to death.

And have you noticed the new dishwasher detergents without phosphates? They leave spot and a film on your glasses and don’t get dishes as clean. So, many people will use more detergent, which can ruin your dishwasher.

How much more of this are we going to take?


125 posted on 09/18/2010 6:56:43 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Madame Dufarge
See, when I want a hot iron, I want it so hot that Satan would recoil from the heat. I want the walls to melt

Thrift shops, rummage sales, etc. might be your best bet. Either that or a couple of anitque irons sitting on the stove burners...

126 posted on 09/19/2010 1:41:30 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: jazusamo

‘We’re going to make people save money for themselves,’

It is only Fascism when Republicans do it - Sincerely, your local Dem.


127 posted on 09/20/2010 7:59:21 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: The Antiyuppie

“So, although this feels “bad” right now, over the long term, it’s good.”

Except that we can never get rid of all their “progress.” We go backwards by baby steps and jump “forward” with regulations by leaps and bounds.


128 posted on 09/20/2010 8:24:01 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: jazusamo

Mandate to force. Says it all.


129 posted on 09/20/2010 8:33:07 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: jazusamo

Have they decreed what toilet paper we will have to use yet?

FUBO


130 posted on 09/20/2010 9:30:25 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: sportutegrl

I don’t think Cathy has ever had a “Man Date” in her life.
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Obongo had plenty of “man dates” but no female dates until he snagged his ‘beard’ for political reasons.


131 posted on 09/20/2010 9:31:31 AM PDT by mojitojoe ("Ridicule is man's most potent weapon" Saul Alinsky... I will take Odungo's mentors advice)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Packaging for a Rowenta iron:
Do not iron clothes on body.


132 posted on 09/20/2010 9:35:59 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: jazusamo
“As the secretary [Chu] says, ‘We’re going to make people save money for themselves,’” Zoi said.


133 posted on 09/20/2010 9:38:40 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: jazusamo

“Saving a few bucks a month in electricity means nothing if they force the price of the product so high few people can afford it. Grrrrr!”

I’m already there. I’m sitting in a home office in Florida with no AC and I stopped using the clothes dryer 5 weeks ago. Was going to insulate my attic this summer but Progress Energy needed another $500.00 deposit. I used no energy during the coldest winter in 30 years so my bill were under $150.00. I was paying them bi-monthly. Progress Energy changed their rules and said I was late paying and wanted a new deposit after 15 years in the same home.

What’s next? No hot water? Kerosene lamps?


134 posted on 09/20/2010 10:46:28 AM PDT by poobear ("The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: DannyTN

“Now we’ll have to wash our dishes and clothes three times, like we have to flush the toilet three times.”
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It’s really amazing, we save water by using a smaller tank so that we have to flush it three times instead of one and we save money on gasoline by paying a subsidy to corn growers to produce corn for ethanol so that we can buy gasoline with ten percent ethanol that cuts our gas mileage by AT LEAST fifteen percent. This new age math is really something.


135 posted on 09/20/2010 2:53:25 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: RipSawyer

Your figures for ethanol powered vehicles are a little off. I have a flexible fuel F-150 truck. It gets 22 miles to the gallon on 93 octane unleaded fuel at $2.96 per gallon and 20 miles to the gallon on E-85 fuel at $2.49 per gallon (My actual experience, yours may vary.)

Cost per gallon difference=18.6% less - Advantage E-85
Miles per gallon difference=9.1% more - Advantage 93 octane
Looks like a 2:1 return on investment to me.


136 posted on 09/20/2010 3:07:41 PM PDT by CholeraJoe ("CJ, if we're ever ordered to storm your house, I'm calling in sick." Local SWAT team member.)
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To: CholeraJoe

Invalid comparison, please make a valid one before saying that my figures are off.


137 posted on 09/20/2010 5:26:12 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: RipSawyer

OK. How about this one? Same data expressed a different way. E-85 costs $0.1245 to drive a mile and 93 octane costs $0.1345. Or is that too complicated, too?


138 posted on 09/21/2010 5:21:12 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("CJ, if we're ever ordered to storm your house, I'm calling in sick." Local SWAT team member.)
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To: CholeraJoe

Joe, you miss the entire point, I am talking about a comparison between pure gasoline and TEN PERCENT ETHANOL in the same vehicle, one which is not designed to run on E-85.

You on the other hand, are comparing 93 octane which is probably ten percent ethanol, at least you don’t specify pure gasoline, against E-85. The two comparisons relate like cucumbers and watermelons, similar in some respects but very different.

Then there is the matter of the subsidy for growing ethanol. Part of the cost of your E-85 is paid by government subsidy, stolen from the taxpayers. Add that back and your E-85 would cost more than straight gasoline.

Now, is that too complicated?


139 posted on 09/21/2010 5:47:31 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: CholeraJoe

Don’t forget, you’re also paying taxes to subsidize ethanol production, so that E85 actaully cost more than what you paid at the pump.


140 posted on 09/21/2010 5:58:39 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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