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Russian navy ‘sent Somali pirates to their death’
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Posted on 05/12/2010 1:54:29 PM PDT by kronos77

An international maritime treaty means suspected pirates can be tried in the home countries of their victims – but some governments have been put off this course of action for fear that convicted pirates might not return to Somalia after serving out their time in jail. Kuznetzov seemed to echo this when he said: "Why should we feed some pirates?"

Russian media reported that the 10 men were set adrift in a boat with no navigational equipment, and that contact was lost with the boat's radio beacon within an hour. However, Commander John Harbour, a spokesman for the EU naval force in Somalia, told the BBC that the loss of navigation equipment would not necessarily be critical and that the signal from the beacon could vanish if the battery ran out or it entered a satellite blind spot.

One Somali news website reported a conversation with an unidentified pirate who claimed the men were indeed dead – but said they had all been shot before they were loaded into the skiff. There is no evidence for this account


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 2bad; maritime; pirates; russiapiratesnavy; somalia; somalipirates
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1 posted on 05/12/2010 1:54:30 PM PDT by kronos77
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http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/63244,news-comment,news-politics,russian-navy-sent-somali-pirates-to-their-death-from-the-moscow-university


2 posted on 05/12/2010 1:54:55 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
Russian navy ‘sent Somali pirates to their death’

And?

3 posted on 05/12/2010 1:55:29 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: kronos77

Yeah? Okay.


4 posted on 05/12/2010 1:55:52 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: kronos77

Good use for Pirates, fish food.

Anybody know if the Russian ship they hijacked was a flag ship?


5 posted on 05/12/2010 1:56:05 PM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: kronos77

Moral of the story don’t be a pirate unless you are Captain Bligh and can navigate and sail a small boat.


6 posted on 05/12/2010 1:57:17 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: kronos77
"Kuznetzov seemed to echo this when he said: "Why should we feed some pirates?" "

Pretty much sums it up, right there.

7 posted on 05/12/2010 1:57:17 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Non-Sequitur

This sounded like the lead into a good news - bad news sort of story, but what’s the bad news?


8 posted on 05/12/2010 1:57:25 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: kronos77

Is this a problem? Sounds like a solution.


9 posted on 05/12/2010 1:57:32 PM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: kronos77

Why don’t we do this?


10 posted on 05/12/2010 1:57:54 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: kronos77
... they had all been shot before they were loaded into the skiff.

Even if this is true, does anyone expect sympathy for the pirates?

Umm.... No.

That's what's supposed to happen to pirates!

11 posted on 05/12/2010 1:57:58 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Tarpon
'Anybody know if the Russian ship they hijacked was a flag ship?"

No. I believe it was a Liberian flagged vessel, IIRC.

12 posted on 05/12/2010 1:58:07 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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"Why should we feed some pirates?"

Especially when you have the opportunity to feed some hungry sharks - God's creatures and all.

13 posted on 05/12/2010 1:58:24 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: kronos77

Russia and Putin shows the PC west how it is supposed to be done while we have a fairy in charge wanting to give miranda rights and then bring them back here

so what if they were killed, they couldn;t give a rats arse about who they kill so why should we

imagine fighting a war back in the day or fighting pirates like we do now.

we’d have lost every war and the pirates off Jamaica would still be rampant


14 posted on 05/12/2010 1:58:56 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: kronos77

“but said they had all been shot before they were loaded into the skiff.”

I certainly hope so. We wouldn’t want them to suffer would we?


15 posted on 05/12/2010 1:59:01 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: OldDeckHand

Still a good use for Pirates, fish food.


16 posted on 05/12/2010 1:59:08 PM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: kronos77

waste of a good boat, dont know about the beacon


17 posted on 05/12/2010 1:59:42 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: kronos77

SPESNATZ!!!


18 posted on 05/12/2010 1:59:59 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: kronos77

TOO BAD!

SO SAD! PERHAPS THEY WILL LEARN THAT THE RUSSIAN’S ARE NOT AS NICE AS THE CHUMPS IN AMERICA. We would have fed them, clothed them and given them 1,000,000 as we wrongly arrested them.


19 posted on 05/12/2010 2:00:15 PM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world.)
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To: Tarpon

They hijacked a tanker and the Russians sent an Udaloy Class destroyer to retake the ship.


20 posted on 05/12/2010 2:00:15 PM PDT by benjibrowder (For Neda. May God bless those fighting for freedom.)
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To: Tarpon

I would add though, it was an entirely Russian crew, and it was Russian cargo (oil) on its way to China.


21 posted on 05/12/2010 2:00:21 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: beebuster2000
dont know about the beacon

It was on the fritz anyway. Batteries were almost dead too. ;-)

22 posted on 05/12/2010 2:00:32 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: kronos77

... and this is bad because???

In my book, the only thing they did wrong was they neglected to hang them first... although, something tells me that the Russians made sure the inflatable raft had a nice air leak before they gave it away.


23 posted on 05/12/2010 2:00:40 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: All

When I was little one I though I would never see the day when I would be rooting for the Ruskies, hee hee.


24 posted on 05/12/2010 2:01:24 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: Tarpon
Anybody know if the Russian ship they hijacked was a flag ship?

Definitely not Russian flagged, I believe Liberia, flag of convenience.

25 posted on 05/12/2010 2:01:53 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: kronos77

That is the right thing to do, in my opinion


26 posted on 05/12/2010 2:02:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: benjibrowder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_destroyer_Marshal_Shaposhnikov_(BPK_543)


27 posted on 05/12/2010 2:02:11 PM PDT by benjibrowder (For Neda. May God bless those fighting for freedom.)
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To: kronos77
...and that contact was lost with the boat's radio beacon within an hour.

Said beacon was a timer for a couple pounds of C-4.

28 posted on 05/12/2010 2:02:12 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: yarddog

gosh, why kill them first?

Think of the mess on the deck!

kill them once on board their own boat!


29 posted on 05/12/2010 2:02:20 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: benjibrowder

fish food is fine with me

Why not put 50 cals on ships though, sink the pirates faster


30 posted on 05/12/2010 2:02:39 PM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: kronos77

Less deadly pirates and nutritious food for the sea kittens. This is a feel good story, even for PETA!


31 posted on 05/12/2010 2:02:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: kronos77

It seems the Russian catch and release policy is more effective than other nations policies.


32 posted on 05/12/2010 2:03:07 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Tarpon

I read in another post here on FR earlier this week that the tanker was actually flagged in another country (I think it was Lithuania).

Posters were talking about how this would guarantee that no more Russian ships would be attacked. It was pointed out that this ship was not Russian flagged and that the name of the ship on the bow was in English. This adds a little more danger into the pirate mix since they won’t know if they are grabbing a ship that will get them killed or not.


33 posted on 05/12/2010 2:03:07 PM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soul mate, CDBEAR. 28 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: kronos77
Kuznetzov seemed to echo this when he said: "Why should we feed some pirates?"

There's some right thinking if I've ever seen any!

34 posted on 05/12/2010 2:03:23 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (No Romney,No Mark Kirk (Illinois), not now, not ever!)
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To: kronos77

GOOD


35 posted on 05/12/2010 2:04:07 PM PDT by Carley (WE CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: kronos77
10 men were set adrift in a boat with no navigational equipment, and that contact was lost with the boat's radio beacon within an hour

I for one want to protest in the strongest terms this waste of a perfectly good rowboat and transponder. They should have hung them from a yard arm. Rope can be reused.
36 posted on 05/12/2010 2:04:09 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: kronos77

Ohhhh. Were they Mirandized first?


37 posted on 05/12/2010 2:04:31 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: kronos77
Russian navy ‘sent Somali pirates to their death’

Yes, they did.


38 posted on 05/12/2010 2:04:41 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their ass at God while praying.)
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To: kronos77

I can just hear the Russian Captain...”OK, Guys, here’s the deal. You’re 300 miles from shore and unfortunately this raft has a few tiny leaks in it. So, you need to row really, really fast......”


39 posted on 05/12/2010 2:04:51 PM PDT by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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To: kronos77

Should have been keel-hauled first, then set adrift.

keel-haul (from the Urban Dictionary:

A medeival naval punishment that involves tying a line to each arm of the convicted sailor and pushing him off the bow of the ship under sail. The sailor was ‘hauled’ along the barnacle encrusted ‘keel’ of the vessel aided by the movement of the ship and pulled back aboard at the stern of the ship. It hurt really bad.


40 posted on 05/12/2010 2:06:47 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (No Romney,No Mark Kirk (Illinois), not now, not ever!)
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To: kronos77

Pirates will think twice when they see a Russian flag on a ship.


41 posted on 05/12/2010 2:06:50 PM PDT by AU72
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To: kronos77

hhhhmmm, wonder if the boat has a hole in it??


42 posted on 05/12/2010 2:07:11 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: kronos77
"Why should we feed some pirates?"

I don't have a problem with feeding pirates ... to the sharks.

43 posted on 05/12/2010 2:08:56 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Medvedev said “We have to deal with pirates like our forefathers did”

Man, even Adolph Hitler killed himself not to be captured by those forefathers....


44 posted on 05/12/2010 2:10:15 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: Graybeard58

...hurt really bad.

Especially in salt-water.


45 posted on 05/12/2010 2:11:21 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: benjibrowder

http://img.blog.yahoo.co.kr/ybi/1/24/56/shinecommerce/folder/63/img_63_16978_7?1203903364.jpg

Nice pic of destroyer “Shaposhnikov”


46 posted on 05/12/2010 2:11:56 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
An international maritime treaty means suspected pirates can be tried in the home countries of their victims

If Russia authorizes the captian of a milatary ship to conduce an onboard trial and pass sentence under the authority of homeland Russia, it sounds legal to me.

47 posted on 05/12/2010 2:14:16 PM PDT by super7man
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To: NerdDad
This adds a little more danger into the pirate mix since they won’t know if they are grabbing a ship that will get them killed or not. a Russian Roulette sort of?
48 posted on 05/12/2010 2:15:42 PM PDT by ColdOne
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49 posted on 05/12/2010 2:17:00 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income... Fire the government)
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To: Jewels1091
Even if it didn't before they loaded in the pirates, it probably "accidentally" acquired one before being set adrift.


50 posted on 05/12/2010 2:17:03 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (We were hoping for flying unicorns that crapped skittles. We got nationalized health care.)
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