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Transit bus fight in Oakland creating buzz (VIDEO: 67 year old man beats-down thug)
Mercury News ^ | Staff

Posted on 02/17/2010 3:21:44 PM PST by AAABEST

OAKLAND — A You Tube video showing a fight between two AC Transit bus riders has ignited a flurry of online debates about violence, race and the safety of public transit.

The video, which shows an older white man exchanging blows with a younger black man, is attracting hundreds of thousands of hits.

The fight took place Tuesday afternoon on a bus in downtown Oakland, near the corner of Harrison and Webster streets.

We will update this story when further details are available.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: amberlamps; beard; ebg; ebm; epic; epicbeardguy; epicbeardman; guy
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To: muglywump
violence to stop violence?

Close. Use superior, more accurate, and more effective violence to stop violence.

You're welcome!

101 posted on 02/17/2010 6:02:26 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: dragnet2

“Who said anything about wagon hitching pal?”

I was referring to some posters here, more than one, who called him an example of a model citizen, or some similar nonsense. The facts show that he’s a known quantity with a history, and what’s known ain’t good.

BTW, I live in Oakland, in the flats. I know what the thugs look like. The black guy is in NO WAY a “gang banger” or a thug. No thug with an ounce of “street cred” dresses like that.

A real thug would have had long cornrows, maybe dyed red, a grill, a puffy jacket, or an oversize cloth jacket with Mickey Mouse or dollar signs on it, some cheap gold chains, and a squared off baseball hat at some stupid angle, with the tag still on it.

And a real thug would have been packing, and shot Beard Guy in a heartbeat, or got on a cell phone and called in his posse to do it for him.


102 posted on 02/17/2010 6:04:08 PM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: maine-iac7; Eagles6

My point is simply to avoid escalating the situation (which both parties did). Violence did not have to happen in this instance just as it does not have to happen in most instances.

If you are at all interested in my POV, read the threads from the beginning of the post.


103 posted on 02/17/2010 6:06:02 PM PST by muglywump (Seven days without laughter makes one weak.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

OMG. I think he/she is one of those people who doesn’t like the word “win”.

It is such a judgmental word.


104 posted on 02/17/2010 6:07:59 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: wardaddy

Hilarious ping!
Video of bus thug in Oakland, Cal. getting “beat down” by 67 year old 6’5” bad ass!


105 posted on 02/17/2010 6:09:13 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: muglywump; Blue Jays
Were I the older guy, I would have kept my mouth shut after relocating to the front of the bus, especially given the environs.

Thugs and bullies are emboldened by such passive behavior. If you roll over and show your belly to a wolf, you're gonna get your guts ripped out.

You have three choices; you can be the wolf, you can be the sheep dog, or you can be the sheep.

You choose to be the sheep. You've been fortunate to have the sheep dogs whom you've insulted (with your "everyone lost WWII" comment) to protect your butt.

106 posted on 02/17/2010 6:09:38 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: muglywump
I cannot speak for anyone on the bus. Were I the older guy I would have kept to myself. At the beginning of the video the younger man was not threatening anyone. Were I the older guy, I would have kept my mouth shut after relocating to the front of the bus, especially given the environs. I would have made an assumption that the younger guy may have been carrying a weapon.

You're a sheep begging to be bloodied and savaged by dogs and wolves.

Some of us don't buy into the "feel free to beat me" mindset that you extol.

107 posted on 02/17/2010 6:09:57 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: All

SantaClaus bump


108 posted on 02/17/2010 6:11:28 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: behzinlea; Grizzled Bear

Are we having fun being totally off point? Good!


109 posted on 02/17/2010 6:11:57 PM PST by muglywump (Seven days without laughter makes one weak.)
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To: muglywump

Every man woman or child has a line where they will fight back against violence, even you.

For some of us that line is very close, it defines us, for others that line could be a million miles away HOWEVER once that line is crossed it is human nature to give no quarter or expect it in return.


110 posted on 02/17/2010 6:13:04 PM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

You’ve been watching too much TV and movies. Drink some warm milk, and go to bed.


111 posted on 02/17/2010 6:14:07 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: behzinlea; Grizzled Bear; muglywump

Guys, guys. I’ve hammered on mug in this thread, but I can kind of understand where he is coming from. Don’t escalate a situation when it’s not necessary. Like I said in a previous post, the black guy seemed a little “touched” himself and was egged on by the girls in the back. What’s the old Marine screed; “Be polite, be courteous, but be prepared to kill everyone you meet.”


112 posted on 02/17/2010 6:15:21 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Kickass Conservative; Red Boots
The old guy could have gotten off, the black guy had gone back to his seaat. The old guy kept it going.

The old guy walked away.

Long ago, the young punk would have been removed by the driver. If he put up a fight, the male passengers would have helped. If the old guy acted up or provoked the situation, he would have been tossed off, too.

113 posted on 02/17/2010 6:15:34 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: usmcobra

“Every man woman or child has a line where they will fight back against violence, even you.”

Exactly; just as I have stated that I would defend myself.

For the 14th time, my point is to not let the situation escalate (as in this totally avoidable bus incident).


114 posted on 02/17/2010 6:16:49 PM PST by muglywump (Seven days without laughter makes one weak.)
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To: randomhero97
Well, I guess the black guy didn't heed your advice, did he? He followed the old guy to where he had retreated to the front of the bus and took a swing at him.

He got what was coming to him.

115 posted on 02/17/2010 6:18:15 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: randomhero97

Thank you, randomhero97!!! Now can I go home? :)


116 posted on 02/17/2010 6:18:42 PM PST by muglywump (Seven days without laughter makes one weak.)
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To: usmcobra

AMEN!


117 posted on 02/17/2010 6:19:41 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: All

If more “incidents” like this ended the way this one did, there would be far less “incidents”.
We have been trained to ignore the sort of shit-talking and behaviour exhibited by the thug in the video and THAT has led to the deaths and harm of thousands.
A well-timed ass-kicking can be an invaluable lesson.
Hopefully “Foolio” gets it....


118 posted on 02/17/2010 6:20:46 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: DonaldC
>>>kinda funny the dude wanting an ambulance<<<

He has been coached on how to prepare for a civil suite.. I bet sues the bus company and the man.
119 posted on 02/17/2010 6:21:01 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Keep your socialized health care off my body !!)
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To: muglywump
Thank you, randomhero97!!! Now can I go home? :)

Asking permission? Submissive to the end.

120 posted on 02/17/2010 6:21:07 PM PST by behzinlea
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