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Climate Change Data Dumped
Timesonline ^ | November 29, 2009 | Jonathan Leake

Posted on 11/28/2009 7:05:01 PM PST by caveat emptor

SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.

It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years....In a statement on its website, the CRU said: “We do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added (quality controlled and homogenised) data.”

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechangedata; climategate; corruption; fraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; science
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They have only the "hide the decline" data. Time to shut the place down.
1 posted on 11/28/2009 7:05:03 PM PST by caveat emptor
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To: caveat emptor

Well...they screwed the pooch now......I’d say it’s ALL over now....good bye ALGORE!!!


2 posted on 11/28/2009 7:06:21 PM PST by goodnesswins (Become a Precinct Committee Person/Officer....in the GOP...or do NOT complain.)
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To: caveat emptor

“We made everything up. Everything.”


3 posted on 11/28/2009 7:07:10 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: caveat emptor

They already admitted in their emails that they would rather delete the data before handing it over to anyone else. Well, there you go.


4 posted on 11/28/2009 7:07:17 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: caveat emptor
They don't have data showing global warming. There must not be any.

5 posted on 11/28/2009 7:08:02 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: caveat emptor
Value added data...


6 posted on 11/28/2009 7:08:43 PM PST by kenth
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To: caveat emptor

Cap'n Trade sez: "Arrgh! It be a mighty sad thing when ye jettisons yer weapons before ye're even boarded. What kind o' scurvy, pants-wetting economy pirates are ye, anyway?"

7 posted on 11/28/2009 7:11:46 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (Achtung. preparen zie fur die obamahopenchangen.)
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To: caveat emptor

Sounds like “My dog ate my homework.”


8 posted on 11/28/2009 7:11:49 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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To: kenth

Don’t laugh, that value added data was almost worth trillions to them.


9 posted on 11/28/2009 7:12:50 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: goodnesswins

Considering that Algore was in it for the “bucks”, he is not going to be bothered by all this. He will spend his dotage in opulent contentment.


10 posted on 11/28/2009 7:14:00 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: kenth

Value added? like buying ham by the pound pumped full of water?


11 posted on 11/28/2009 7:14:52 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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To: caveat emptor

So which global warming stocks should we be shorting?


12 posted on 11/28/2009 7:15:14 PM PST by what's up
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To: caveat emptor
"...value added data"

Is that like...a padded bra?

13 posted on 11/28/2009 7:17:49 PM PST by Snardius
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To: caveat emptor

How convenient.......................

I don’t think any of us are surprised.


14 posted on 11/28/2009 7:18:14 PM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Don’t laugh, that value added data was almost worth trillions to them.

The original data probably wasn't worth anything to them. Now, they can't claim anything about their data one way or the other.

If this is correct, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2395852/posts then carbon dioxide can't cause greenhouse warming, because it would violate the laws of physics.

15 posted on 11/28/2009 7:18:32 PM PST by DrDavid (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: doc1019

“He will spend his dotage in opulent contentment.”

It would be nice if instead of spending for such opulent contentment, it was spent in the legal community fighting for his freedom until broke, and then to the Graybar Hotel.


16 posted on 11/28/2009 7:19:12 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: caveat emptor

From comments on this article:
“Truth Orator wrote:
All they have to do to re-create the original data is reverse the corrections and the corrections of corrections that they used on it. As long as they are not allowed to corrupt that process the original data should result. Since that data is so important for figuring out climate change is happening and independent body should be appointed to oversee the process. One that includes climate scientists of all persuations and scientists from other fields also.”

From what I found 2 days ago re: HARRY_READ_ME_ they can’t back out because they don’t know what adjustments were made. They bought off-the-shelf software to do the statistics and they didn’t know how it was filling in missing data points. They don’t have records of what corrections were made. They don’t have records disclosing whether or not the original input was verified.

They can’t reconstruct the original data because the original data was on paper and input (from one site) into a spreadsheet. (Excel? We spent billions of dollars for KRAP on a spreadshet? & we’re going to improverish our kids based on such incompetent information?)


17 posted on 11/28/2009 7:20:47 PM PST by Bhoy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Bingo.


18 posted on 11/28/2009 7:21:04 PM PST by visualops (Freepin' Pre!)
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To: caveat emptor

Looks like a fraud, acts like a fraud, talks like a fraud, it MUST BE a TOTAL FRAUD. “Didn’t keep the raw data.” What a crock! These people are criminals!


19 posted on 11/28/2009 7:24:13 PM PST by ezfindit (OrthodoxNet.com - Shining the Light of Wisdom and Truth)
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To: caveat emptor
They have only the "hide the decline" data. Time to shut the place down.

Hide The Decline - Climategate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnoYTotZRjE&feature=player_embedded

20 posted on 11/28/2009 7:25:23 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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