Posted on 11/14/2009 2:04:26 AM PST by DaveTesla
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich predicted disaster
for his party if the conservative wing of the GOP
continues to field independent candidates to the right
of the party’s nominee.
“If we get into a cycle where there are tea parties and
there are conservative third-party candidates, we will
make [Nancy] Pelosi speaker for life,” Gingrich told
POLITICO in an interview Thursday, calling the
practice “totally destructive.”
But Gingrich, who broke with many fellow conservatives
by getting behind the liberal Republican who was
nominated but ultimately dropped out and backed the
Democrat in a New York special congressional election,
admitted that Dede Scozzafava was too far to the left to
hold the GOP’s center-right coalition together
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Your right! It's suicide.
Just because the idiots the statist put in front of us does not win does not mean we need to forgo our values and our freedom.
Perhaps if the GOP gave us someone that could communicate
those freedoms and values to the voters and get the voters riled up and behind them then they will win.
No, we get some half dead old corpse that don't believe in
anything other than the government taking over more of our
lives and liberties.
Just look at Sarah Palin. Were you asleep? She drove the
crowds into a frenzy. McCommie put them to sleep.
She has a message and a plan and she knows how to communicate it.
Just like Ronald Reagan did.
I don't vote to win elections. I will vote to secure my liberty and get the oppressive taxing controlling government off my back. And I will get excited over the opportunity to do so.
The GOP will never get me enthusiastic about putting some RINO
in office that is just going to do everything I am morally and spiritually against while destroying my family.
Nobody is arguing with your points. However, he is basically saying “conservatives need not apply”. It obviously is not his exact words but pretty close. I agree with your post, but to have Newt bash folks for trying to get conservatives during the primary does not make sense. If the Republican legitimately wins than hey at least we gave it a try.
Newt says Reagan Conservativism is dead...then goes with dear Callista and makes a documentary about Reagan praising him to the skies.
Newt says drill here, drill now, but ALSO says we have to stop global warming.
Newt says he is a Conservative but says that hillary clinton, a Marxist, would make a FINE president.
Newt jumps ugly on Conservatives for not backing scuzzy, then goes on Hannity looking all contrite and says we have a right to be angry, and a few days later eats it.
Now this?
I think he’s trying to find a place where he can be relevant and it isn’t working for him. He is everywhere all the time and it seems like he has no straight answer for anything. It only depends on who is listening. The left hates him, the right is disowning him, and the middle doesn’t really like or be loyal to anyone because they can’t decide anything ever. Which means they are just like him and vice versa. Blowing in the wind.
Who you trying to fool?
The RINOS you folks try to make real Conservatives
swallow (like a big old $h!t sandwich)will only take them
from us anyway.
I’m in NY13 - Staten Island and parts of Brooklyn - and our Tea Party is very active and has made a difference.
We have a freshman Dem Congressman (McMahon) in a county that went 52-48 for McCain. He was a popular Councilman that ran virtually without opposition - but that’s before our TP was organized. A few weeks ago we elected 2 Republican Councilmen by average majorities of 70-30.
We hold EVERYBODY’S feet to the fire: R’s and D’s. We no longer have to ask “Can you hear us now?” because we KNOW that they hear us now.
There will be a R primary for this seat in 2010, and we will have at least one Conservative in the process. I’ll do everything I can to get him the nomination, but if he loses the primary, what should we do? Go on a self-destructive spite binge and give the seat BACK to the Dem?
Where is the logic in that?
Horses for courses.
So sorry, Newt. My wife and I will only support/donate-to/volunteer-for/listen-to conservative candidates. You must be gone.
“conservatives need not apply”
BINGO!
Agree with this wholeheartedly. The place that the choosing needs to be done is in the primaries. Conservatives running on a third party ticket are going to lose.
You nailed it.
They give us fake conservatives right down to the local school board.
The way I read this, it’s tantamount to saying that if classical music doesn’t start accepting rappers, then classical music will cease to exist.
“However, he is basically saying “conservatives need not apply”. It obviously is not his exact words but pretty close.”
With all respect, naps, I disagree. He didn’t say that, and having read it now three times, I couldn’t make the inference come out that way. I think he is inferring that if your guy can’t win a fair primary, respect (and vote for) the guy who does.
In the end, WE are installing the nominee through the process - not the RNCC.
You know where I really have a problem? With the Presidential primary process. There is something very wrong there, and it needs to be fixed. Any “process” that has us winding up with John McCain is flawed - and doesn’t represent the people that used to call themselves Republicans.
We have GOT to get that thing fixed. There is much too much emphasis on the early primaries, especially now that New Hampshire is a shadow of its former self.
FUNG!
The party apparatus is active at the primary stage too, and "on average" supports the more liberal candidate when there is a primary contest between a conservative and a moderate. It's a rigged "insider's game." Incumbents are a particularly noxious form of "insider."
As for the public having a taste, or not, for conservative principles, my gloss over the situation is that the GOP/RNC don't effectively present and defend conservative principles, and the public "taste" is driven by misinformation.
The Reform Party in Canada began a roughly 12 year process of dividing votes to allow Liberals to win while it forced the old “Progressive Conservative Party” to throw in the towel, absorb Reformers and call itself the “Conservative Party.”
In a few years Stephen Harper was the Conservative prime minister of Canada and still is today.
Now if the Republican Party is smart, it will put up the white flag now and allow real conservatives to run instead of trying to block them in primaries with handpicked NRCC candidates or RINO incumbents like Chris Smith in New Jersey or Todd Platts of my district.
The liberal Republican Party is the problem, not the conservatives.
They must give way to authentic conservatives who want balanced budgets and less government.
In my mind, the difference between Boehner and Pelosi is a slower or faster death of freedom in this country.
If our freedom is dying, why endure a slow death????
Good shot.....Here’s mine:
Newt
Years ago : Contract With America
Today: Contract ON America
These people do not represent us.
They don't represent our values.
They don't represent our beliefs.
Hell, they don't even represent our nationhood, sovereignty or our Constitution.
And the duties that the Constitution charges them with they
don't want to be bothered with.
All they want to do is turn Washing D.C. into an even bigger
BORG, cash cow and power base than it already is.
Which is better, a slow death or a quick one?
Newt offers the slow death.
I love it-Can't wait to carry it at the next tea party event! Newt is traveling around with Rev. Al Sharpton-maybe someone can start freeping him with that sign!
I don’t think that is actually going to be politically productive.
I would hope you would join the fight where it is actually being fought, in the trenches, at your local Republican Party monthly meetings.
One of the biggest reasons we find ourselves in the present political situation we are now in is because independents have simply walked away from the battlefield and left the party in the hands of its corporate overlords.
Sarah Palin, in my opinion, isn’t going to run under the Conservative Party banner. She will fight to take back the party and give it to its rightful owners: grassroot, fiscal conservative members.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Now I take a look at this thread and I don't see how these same posters can all be Freepers.
It's time to stop being so emotional about all this and start THINKING long term before jumping to conclusions.
The long term goal needs to be to bring our country back from the place it is now with these RATS in total control. I don't know if we can do it all at once or if we have to be content to do it piece by piece. I do know RATS didn't take control all at once. Liberalism took over incrementally. Let's stop to THINK.
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