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Who are the real proponents of hate speech on campus?
Evolution News & Views ^ | October 29, 2009 | John West, Ph.D.

Posted on 10/30/2009 9:23:15 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Supporters of Darwin’s theory continue to distinguish themselves on America’s college campuses—not for their reason and logic, but for their incredible ill manners and an almost pathological inability to engage in civil discussion. Last week, a factually-challenged attack on intelligent design was published in The Nevada Sagebrush, the student newspaper at the University of Nevada, Reno. Nothing new in that; I see ill-informed articles on intelligent design all the time. But after my colleague Rob Crowther posted a short comment suggesting that readers might actually want to hear from intelligent design proponents themselves (imagine that!), the Darwinist thought-police came out in force. One writer who is so courageous that he hides behind the pseudonym “bobxxxx” fulminated:

Robert Crowther… and the rest of the theocratic morons of the Dishonesty Institute are traitors who want to destroy America’s science education. If it was up to me they would be put in prison for treason. They are enemies of America, no better than terrorists, and they should be treated like terrorists.

Traitors? Terrorists? Enemies of America? ID proponents should be “put in prison” for freely expressing their views?!! Perhaps the University of Nevada should consider requiring its students to take a course on the First Amendment. It's pretty obvious that some of them don't understand the value of free speech.

When another person had the temerity to observe on the newspaper's website that “anti-Intelligent Design advocates often post nasty, name calling, ignorant, and often just plain slanderous comments on websites but the ID support[er]s rarely respond in kind,” he provoked a denunciation from someone calling himself “Jumbalaya,” who opined:

In the early 1940s, many of the German militants occupying France were known to be real polite as well. But you know what…?

THEY WERE STILL NAZIS!

Good manners don’t excuse ID supporters for the filth they’re pushing to the public.

This is not free speech; it’s an attempt to suppress free speech by demonizing and intimidating others so they will be afraid to speak up. I have a suggestion for the Darwinist purveyors of such hate speech: If you really want to identify the opponents of a free society, try looking in the mirror.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Nevada; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: academia; academicfreedom; agenda; corruption; creation; democrats; divideandconquerfr; education; edusocialism; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; highereducation; intelligentdesign; leftismoncampus; liberalfascism; politics; science; socialism; speechcodes; wot
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1 posted on 10/30/2009 9:23:15 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/30/2009 9:26:49 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

The left, like their “father”, is not very creative.

They continuously try to use the “Nazi” comparison to silence their opposition.


3 posted on 10/30/2009 9:30:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

The good hting is that whenever these rabid evos spout hteir icnessant hatemonguering diatribes which lack even a modicum of intellectual honesty, they reveal just how much trouble their hypothesis of evolution really is- As one person said, when they run out of ligitimate ammo- they must resort to htrowing spitwads- the funny hting though is that they don’t realize the damage they are actually doing to their cause- let them hang themselves- they’ve certainly aquired enough rope to do so with.


4 posted on 10/30/2009 9:46:25 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Darwinism is a religion to those people. They don’t agree with anything that goes against their dogma, whether it is Creationism, Epigenetics, and Convergence.


5 posted on 10/30/2009 9:51:10 AM PDT by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies. God Loves Ptarmigans)
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To: GodGunsGuts

So the ID tale fails to get heard and fails in the science world because of some college kids?

Always an excuse...pointing fingers elsewhere...

NAZIS!!!


6 posted on 10/30/2009 9:54:07 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with vegetarian T. rex within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

So what are the flaws in the original piece the author describes as “factually challenged”. This whole article is nothing more than a red herring. Typical creationist dishonesty.


7 posted on 10/30/2009 10:08:52 AM PDT by stormer
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To: GodGunsGuts
Could you please clue me in as to the point of this diatribe? The author cites an article is a student newspaper that he states is "factually challenged" but gives no rebuttal to the article. Which facts are challenged?

Instead, the author then uses comments from others made to the article to show how the "Darwinist thought-police came out in force". And these "Darwinists" are known members of your church of Darwin? If I were a cynical person, I'd guess that the author posted those inane comments himself so that he'd have something to meet his copy deadline (like Democrats do what they accuse others of, in this case write outrageous comments to show what vitriol the your opponents have).

Where are the author's responses in his name, not some non de plume, at the newpaper's site?

8 posted on 10/30/2009 10:16:03 AM PDT by par4 (Proud new member of the racist corps)
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The point is that the Temple of Darwin is "out of ammo", is crumbling on all sides, and is being eaten for lunch by not only Creationists and IDers, but if you do a little checking, even by the evos themselves. This has caused much weeping and gnashing of teeth amongst the evo-religious faithful. But knowing that they will have their rear-ends handed to them if the choose to debate, they instead are forced to lash out, mock, threaten, intimidate...anything, anything at all, except facing their scientific opponents, because they know Darwin's main predictions are under assualt, even by their own, and are increasingly being falsified by genuine science (notwithstanding their flowery language about how Darwin is still a "great man", etc, etc). Of course, the Creationists and IDers have been predicting this day would come all along.


9 posted on 10/30/2009 10:33:37 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Well, that sure changed my mind. I see how your response rebutted everything I mentioned. After all, you showed how he clearly did put his comments in the newspaper and proved beyone a reasonable doubt that the Nazi comments were made by Darwin proponents.

At least your out of ammo comment did remind me that I need to stock up. So I guess your response did serve some purpose.

10 posted on 10/30/2009 10:59:00 AM PDT by par4 (Proud new member of the racist corps)
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Wish him a swift recovery, and walk away. It’s hopeless.


11 posted on 10/30/2009 11:21:40 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: GodGunsGuts; CottShop; metmom; MrB; editor-surveyor; count-your-change; Fichori; YHAOS; ...

“Darwinist thought-police came out in force. One writer who is so courageous that he hides behind the pseudonym “bobxxxx” fulminated:

Robert Crowther… and the rest of the theocratic morons of the Dishonesty Institute are traitors who want to destroy America’s science education. If it was up to me they would be put in prison for treason. They are enemies of America, no better than terrorists, and they should be treated like terrorists.

Traitors? Terrorists? Enemies of America? ID proponents should be “put in prison” for freely expressing their views?!! Perhaps the University of Nevada should consider requiring its students to take a course on the First Amendment. It’s pretty obvious that some of them don’t understand the value of free speech”.


The exact same liberals are here on FR with their Christian taliban coments.

And notice the endless liberal projections?

You’ll get stupid liberals talking about the intolerance of Christians ignoring their own behavior, and you’re right cottshop, that’s all they have at this point.

It’s clear that squahing the debate and kicking all dissent out of the public schools isn’t going to be enough, now you need to be locked up because you’re a terrorist!

Cults do this to people. Pretty creepy.


12 posted on 10/30/2009 12:30:18 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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You can just see them pining away for the day when a leader like Obama puts them in charge of their own reeducation camp.


13 posted on 10/30/2009 12:48:42 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
As we celebrate the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth, we await a third revolution that will see biology changed and strengthened. None of this should give succour to creationists, whose blinkered universe is doubtless already buzzing with the news that "New Scientist has announced Darwin was wrong". Expect to find excerpts ripped out of context and presented as evidence that biologists are deserting the theory of evolution en masse. They are not.

Nor will the new work do anything to diminish the standing of Darwin himself. When it came to gravitation and the laws of motion, Isaac Newton didn't see the whole picture either, but he remains one of science's giants. In the same way, Darwin's ideas will prove influential for decades to come.

are you exempt from Exodus 20:16?

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14 posted on 10/30/2009 12:56:03 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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Is New Scientist saying that Darwin was wrong about his main prediction—namely, his so-called “tree of life”—or not?


15 posted on 10/30/2009 1:09:22 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: par4; metmom; GodGunsGuts; CottShop

“If I were a cynical person, I’d guess that the author posted those inane comments himself so that he’d have something to meet his copy deadline (like Democrats do what they accuse others of, in this case write outrageous comments to show what vitriol the your opponents have).”

Riiiiight, so why are you posing as an evolutionist and attacking GGG’s site, when in reality you’re just another creationist bible thumper drumming up business as it were?

Sheesh...this tactic was tried recently...to assert creationists need to make up hateful attacks just to demonize their opponents, when we have all kinds of evidence of evo behaviour right here on full display for all to see with the “Christian taliban” comments and other lunacy...

well it’s as absurd now as it was when it was laughed off of FR the last time!


16 posted on 10/30/2009 1:13:55 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther

Excellent reply, tpanther!


17 posted on 10/30/2009 1:16:17 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
from the article:"New Scientist has announced Darwin was wrong". Expect to find excerpts ripped out of context and presented as evidence that biologists are deserting the theory of evolution en masse. They are not.....When it came to gravitation and the laws of motion, Isaac Newton didn't see the whole picture either, but he remains one of science's giants. In the same way, Darwin's ideas will prove influential for decades to come.

Your posting that cover is deliberately misleading, and that has been pointed out to you several times. Are you exempt from Exodus 20: 16?

18 posted on 10/30/2009 1:26:45 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

You didn’t answer my question. Did New Scientists publish a cover story about how Darwin was wrong about his main prediction (the so-called “tree of life”) or not?


19 posted on 10/30/2009 1:30:37 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
”Yes he made some mistakes. He lived in the middle of the 19th Century, and, obviously, we know a lot more now than he knew. In particular, he got genetics all wrong. Nobody in the 19th Century knew much about genetics, and so naturally Darwin got that wrong. But given that, it's remarkable how much he got right."~ Richard Dawkins

Are you denying the advances made by scientist in the more than 150 years since Charles Darwin Published On the Origin of Species?

Newton made some mistakes regarding his theory of gravity, does that invalidate the entire theory?

Your Posting that cover is deliberately misleading, it is not in context with the article. And you know that.

Are you exempt from Exdoud 20:16?

20 posted on 10/30/2009 1:53:10 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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