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John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save planet
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/ ^ | 7/10/2009

Posted on 07/10/2009 9:48:47 PM PDT by JRochelle

Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.

The tyrannical fantasies of a madman? Or merely the opinions of the person now in control of science policy in the United States? Or both?

These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not; • The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food; • Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise; • People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized. • A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

Impossible, you say? That must be an exaggeration or a hoax. No one in their right mind would say such things.

Well, I hate to break the news to you, but it is no hoax, no exaggeration. John Holdren really did say those things, and this report contains the proof. Below you will find photographs, scans, and transcriptions

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1 posted on 07/10/2009 9:48:47 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: JRochelle

Taking lessons from the Ford family, the zero population family.


2 posted on 07/10/2009 9:51:27 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: JRochelle

Welcome to China.


3 posted on 07/10/2009 9:53:24 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (I love the Bill of Rights. Is that extremist?)
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To: JRochelle
Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.

This is the fascist crap that Lefties go for.

4 posted on 07/10/2009 9:54:47 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Conservatives allow the guilty to be executed but Lefties insist that the innocent be executed.)
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To: JRochelle; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; ...
 





John Holdren,
Climate Specialist Susperstitionist

5 posted on 07/10/2009 9:55:19 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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To: JRochelle
More like Dr Mengele and the Driete-Reich.
6 posted on 07/10/2009 9:55:29 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: JRochelle

Kafka meets the USA.


7 posted on 07/10/2009 9:56:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Think of the D Party as what it really is: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: SandRat
A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men.
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The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births.
8 posted on 07/10/2009 9:56:44 PM PDT by JRochelle ("I wasn't briefed about the briefing, I was only informed." SanFranNan.)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

China’s a chump compared with the evil efficiencies which could be had in America.


9 posted on 07/10/2009 9:57:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Think of the D Party as what it really is: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: JRochelle

What’s the problem? This guy and the progressive movement simply believe the human race needs more living space. You know, ‘Leibenstraum’.


10 posted on 07/10/2009 9:58:31 PM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: JRochelle

Actually, if this was forced just on Detroit, LA and New York City....I wouldn’t have any problem with this plan.


11 posted on 07/10/2009 9:59:22 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Why they all hate Sarah Palin. She has one of those ‘undesirables’.

People who “contribute to social deterioration” (i.e. undesirables) “can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility” — in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.

12 posted on 07/10/2009 10:01:22 PM PDT by JRochelle ("I wasn't briefed about the briefing, I was only informed." SanFranNan.)
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To: steelyourfaith

“SAVE THE PLANET....KILL YOURSELF”???? Why don’t libs ever follow their own advice?? OK - I know that’s harsh, and as a Christian I really shouldn’t have said it, but it’s late and I’m just beyond sick of these people!!


13 posted on 07/10/2009 10:05:56 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: steelyourfaith

No, John Holdren, Nazi Eugenicist.


14 posted on 07/10/2009 10:09:19 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: JRochelle

Start at the White House and work their way over to Congress.


15 posted on 07/10/2009 10:11:02 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: JRochelle
I read up on this guy and he is really scary. Although I must admit that 307 million (US population 2009) is way too much for the US. I remember when it crossed 200 million. It wasn't that long ago. I think about 1967 or so.

Most of the growth of the US population is immigration (both legal and illegal). Had the US not have changed its immigration laws in 1965, the population of the US would have leveled off at about 265-270 million and we would essentially be at or very close to ZPG. The US would be a much better country if 1965 Immigration & Reform Act had not passed and we continued with the immigration policy we currently had.

Once again we can thank the Democrats as it was they who pushed through this disastrous piece of legislation. Ted Kennedy led the way.
16 posted on 07/10/2009 10:13:09 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: JRochelle
All these folks clamoring about population control would be the last one to agree that they should be the first to go. When I have confronted someone with this outlook of control and suggest that they really get behind the movement by offing themselves look at me like I'm the one who's crazy.
17 posted on 07/10/2009 10:13:24 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953
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To: Carl LaFong
Leibenstraum

You're dreaming about carcasses? Perhaps you meant Lebensraum.

Talk about an caricatured anti-Constitutional administration, totally opposed to the concept of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" for those "endowed by their Creator with [those] inalienable rights".

How do we fast-track cases that can get to SCOTUS to reverse the effect-of-law-policies of these traitors of questionable parentage?

O M G !

HF

18 posted on 07/10/2009 10:15:07 PM PDT by holden
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To: JRochelle
.. with official permission, ..

That's a major problem.

19 posted on 07/10/2009 10:15:19 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: truthguy
Although I must admit that 307 million (US population 2009) is way too much for the US.

Have you ever taken a drive through the USA west of the Missippi and east of the West Coast?? This country is practically half EMPTY.

20 posted on 07/10/2009 10:15:52 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Only feces and dead fish go with the flow.)
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To: JRochelle

21 posted on 07/10/2009 10:18:25 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: truthguy

Saying that 300 million is too high of a population for America is an arbitrary judgement.

The earth can easily sustain many more than the current 6.7 billion.

‘Peak oil’ and other myths are just that, myths.


22 posted on 07/10/2009 10:20:50 PM PDT by kingpins10
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To: JRochelle
Hold on let be sure if he advocating for or warning against...
23 posted on 07/10/2009 10:24:18 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
I hate to break the news to you, but it is no hoax, no exaggeration. John Holdren really did say those things, and this report contains the proof.

Just wow.



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24 posted on 07/10/2009 10:24:27 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: JRochelle; bamahead
Some people just never learn.


25 posted on 07/10/2009 10:26:42 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: JRochelle

The Death Eaters are running the country.


26 posted on 07/10/2009 10:29:58 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: JRochelle; AAABEST; AdamSelene235; AnnaZ; Askel5; backhoe; BlackElk; Brian Allen; ...

BIG DEATH CULTIVATION PING.

Adding this to the recent “Electing God” thread to which I pinged you all but a few days ago, even I am finding it hard to believe that our alleged supermen think they can be this brazenly open.

It is amazing how rapidly this sort of thinking went from “Hush, don’t wanna disturb the sheep” to “Oh, what the hell?”

When this sort of thinking was relegated to but a few comments here and there, and when the only high profile websites were lunatics like the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement (VHEMT) and The Church of Euthanasia, many of you could sit back and say “Oh, it’s only a bunch of lunati fringies and some Ivory Tower Elitists.”

Well, guess what? That thinking is situated in our White House now.

I pray you all think that now is the time to spread the word, given this mountain evidence, that the lunatics have taken over the asylum right at the top.


27 posted on 07/10/2009 10:31:11 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Centurion2000
“This country is practically half EMPTY”

Not empty enough for these folks.

When they say things like this, they're actually referring to - God Loving - Gun Clinging - America Sovereign - Constitutionalists - Patriotic Americans.

28 posted on 07/10/2009 10:35:06 PM PDT by Markos33 (Third World trickle up poverty, will lead to cascading Third World tyranny.)
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To: bamahead

Oh wow. But does he still believe that? He wrote that in ‘77, right? What else is frightening is that there are actually a lot of misguided fools who agree with that “humans are like cockroaches” and “save the earth, kill people” mentality.


29 posted on 07/10/2009 10:36:29 PM PDT by incindiary
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To: incindiary

Check this out.


30 posted on 07/10/2009 10:38:06 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: incindiary

You beat my ping. Scary, ain’t it?


31 posted on 07/10/2009 10:38:37 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Oh, yeah! 0bama is the king of the death cult. Let there be no doubt.


32 posted on 07/10/2009 10:42:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
In the book that is quoted he is coauthor with Paul Ehrlich, discredited author of ‘The Population Bomb’. Interesting that Justice Ginsberg came out as a eugenicist. You would think that her ethnicity would discourage her in this approach.
33 posted on 07/10/2009 10:43:18 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

How about RETROACTIVE ABORTION for this scumbag!


34 posted on 07/10/2009 10:43:18 PM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: JRochelle

Unreal.


35 posted on 07/10/2009 10:45:44 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: JRochelle; LucyT
• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not; • The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food; • Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise; • People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.

Now we know why Sarah Palin terrifies them!

36 posted on 07/10/2009 10:47:28 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Thanks for the ping anyway. Yes, very scary, and evil. I think more people need to be warned about the agenda of some of these anti-human environmental extremists.


37 posted on 07/10/2009 10:49:51 PM PDT by incindiary
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To: kingpins10
Saying that 300 million is too high of a population for America is an arbitrary judgement.

Ever been to China or Japan? I have and it sucks. I'd hate to live in the crowded conditions they live in. There isn't hardly anywhere you can go and get off by yourself. It's a miserable existence.

You can have it. I like having open spaces with forests and wildlife in abundance. I don't want to see our wild lands overrun and despoiled. Maybe you like that existence but most American despise it. Go spend some time in Tokyo and see what it's like. Then come back and tell me that the earth can sustain many more that the current population.

Have you been to a seafood market lately. The price of fish is INSANE. This is because the Nations are overfishing trying to satisfy the worldwide demand for protein. As a kid fish was cheap or at least reasonable. Now it's outrageous. So where is the food or clean water going to come from to support all these millions more that you look forward to? How are you going to house them? What about Clean Water? I don't think you have given this much thought. You must be reading some of the neoconservative literature from a crackpot like Ben Wattenburg or one of his followers.
38 posted on 07/10/2009 10:51:32 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Markos33
When they say things like this, they're actually referring to - God Loving - Gun Clinging - America Sovereign - Constitutionalists - Patriotic Americans.

Agreed. I guarantee that anyone who opposes Obama on ANYTHING will be first in line to Obama's special camps.

Fire up them ovens, Rahm. You've got roughly 150 million Americans to slaughter.

39 posted on 07/10/2009 10:55:19 PM PDT by kromike
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To: I'm ALL Right!

Prince Phil-Up has been quoted many times about coming back as virus to reduce the world’s population


40 posted on 07/10/2009 10:55:25 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Mac Conchradha - "Skeagh mac en chroe"- Skaghvicencrowe)
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To: incindiary
he's more than an 'environmental extremist' he's now officially part of the administration of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar.

41 posted on 07/10/2009 10:56:49 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Ethnicity can be misleading. Bloodline does not guaranty faith in God nor equate to belief in the sanctity of innocent human life.

Jacob and Esau were twins, but Esau was so powerful and skilled in hunting he felt no need for the God of his father. And it was his grandson, Amalek, who is the quintessential man with whom God warned would make war with Him from generation to generation.


42 posted on 07/10/2009 10:58:37 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: JRochelle

Thats insane, don’t they know that reducing the births of Christians ONLY makes it easier for Islam to take over through sheer numbers, when they are having 5 and 10 kid families???

Seriously this Nation is doomed if this administration stays in office.


43 posted on 07/10/2009 11:05:11 PM PDT by Danae (Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: pepsionice
"Actually, if this was forced just on Detroit, LA and New York City....I wouldn’t have any problem with this plan.

Shame on you.

44 posted on 07/10/2009 11:09:58 PM PDT by cookcounty (He who controls the Language controls the Debate.)
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To: steelyourfaith

Look at his picture again and tell me this guy isn’t stark raving mad.


45 posted on 07/10/2009 11:12:51 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Fred Nerks

I know! I hate to sound jaded but this doesn’t really surprise me... I first read about these kinds of people with this evil agenda a number of years ago, and I think we’re heading in that direction. It is part of a bigger plan... and now is the time to make people aware of it.


46 posted on 07/10/2009 11:13:41 PM PDT by incindiary
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To: pepsionice

“Actually, if this was forced just on Detroit, LA and New York City....I wouldn’t have any problem with this plan.”

You’re a nut too.


47 posted on 07/10/2009 11:16:31 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: cookcounty
"Actually, if this was forced just on Detroit, LA and New York City....I wouldn’t have any problem with this plan. Shame on you.

That was my first reaction too. But after thinking about it for a while I was torn. I despise these 3 places as well. I would rather die than live in anyone of them. Detroit is the absolute worst. NY is livable if you are a multimillionaire. Otherwise it's awful. There are nice places in SOCAL, but the LA/SOCAL area gets worse by the hour. Unless I could live in Newport Beach or someplace like that, SOCAL is getting awful as well.
48 posted on 07/10/2009 11:17:12 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: TigersEye
Oh, yeah! 0bama is the king of the death cult. Let there be no doubt.

Yet even on this thread there are those who don't recognize it. And at least one of those fears that mankind will never solve the problem of survivability without active depopulation programs.

He is not alone. Just one of the many who are misled into believing that either God or nature -- including human nature's drive to overcome any adversity -- will be insufficient. You know: those who are convinced that Malthus has just got to be eventually correct.

The many places on the globe where population is indeed a problem have also been where men have not been permitted the freedom to solve their own problems without some tyrant breathing down their backs.

49 posted on 07/10/2009 11:20:01 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: truthguy; pepsionice

How about the proponents of forced sterilization volunteer to get on the cattle cars first...


50 posted on 07/10/2009 11:22:21 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (It takes a viking to raze a village!)
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