Kerchner v. Obama: Defendants Make Additional Request for More Time to Respond (Obama stalling?)

The Right Side of Life ^ | 4-28-2009 | Phil - Right Side of Life

[Frantzie]

Mario Apuzzo, attorney for Plaintiffs in Kerchner v. Obama, made note of the Defendant’s second request for a time extension in this case:

[Frantzie]

Looks like Mario Apuzzo is turning up the heat. Obama's attorneys are asking for a second extension.

[Red Steel]

Delay...delay...delay....

Obama asking his forgers is it done yet?

[ckilmer]

A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in in her village in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in her town but rather that he is a "son of this village". If taken alone, she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.

[ckilmer]

Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?

A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

The thing has become a joke in washington. dJoe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.

After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "

From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.

[Freedom56v2]

bttt later reading!

[Lilpug15]

Ping!

[LucyT]

Thanks, Lilpug15.

Kerchner v. Obama: Defendants Make Additional Request for More Time to Respond (Obama stalling?)

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Big Stall,,,Mo’Big Stall,,,/ETC.!,,,/ETC.!...:0/

[Prole]

Of course the deceptive little worm Obama is stalling.

As if he is going to let the world find out that he was really born in Kenya, or that he was born as a Muslim in Hawaii, or whatnot.

He lies pathologically, so his deceptions and stall tactics come as no surprise to me.

[LibertyRocks]

heh heh... Can’t wait to see what their answer is now...

I can just imagine a bunch of tired, coffee-slamming law clerks, and aides, and such poring over dusty books in some library searching and searching for something to give Obama’s lawyers some bizarre case law or something that they can try to argue!

Don’t know if that’s the case obviously, but it’s a nice thought at least! :)

[Red Steel]

Don’t know if that’s the case obviously, but it’s a nice thought at least! :)

Oh, it's the case with these yahoos. They're grasping at anything and are even trying to get liberal, sycophantic judges to fine lawyers.

[freeplancer]

I you ever have a ping list, please put me on it. Good job.

[nufsed]

Bill Richardson is the highest ranking official to refer to Obama as an immigrant.

[Frantzie]

It seems like this case is different. It seems like the judge is at least going through t he motions to entertain Mario Appuzzo’s case. Mario’s case has be quietly moving along and may be a sleeper. Leo Donofrio had a meeting with Mario after he filed his case and they shared ideas.

Maybe the judges are starting to see how the left wants to go after the judge who worked with the Bush Admin on terrorism. The O Admin could go after any judge next with their “truth commissions.”

Maybe a few judges may decide The Constitution and the Republic actually mean something.

[Prole]

How I pray that you are right.

[Enterprise]

With a rubber stamp House and Senate, no Federal Judge’s job will be safe. All Obama will have to do is draw up a list and hand it to Pelosi. She will call for the vote and the House will rubber stamp a boiler plate charge. Then the case goes to the Senate, probably the same day, and Reid will present it to the Senate for confirmation. Quick and easy. And the next day a sympathetic Obama Judge will be nominated and confirmed to the vacancy.

[combat_boots]

hudna. Taqiyya. Fits the profile.

[justiceseeker93]

...no Federal Judge's job will be safe.

If they wanted to rid themselves of a federal judge they didn't want and that judge refused to step down on his own, they would have to go through an impeachment process. So they would have to concoct some charges that would pass the House and then try the judge in the Senate, where they would have to get a two-thirds majority - which means, given the current party alignment, they would have to get at least seven GOP senators to go along.

As you undoubtedly know, federal judges are appointed for life, or as the Constitution states, they "shall hold their Offices during good Behavior." That means that they must be impeached on charges of other than "good Behavior" in order to be removed involuntarily.

[justiceseeker93]

This asking for a second extension of time is nothing unusual in any litigation. The question becomes, how long do the defendants wish to stall? Are they thinking of stalling out the case until Obama’s term expires and the case becomes moot?

[justiceseeker93]

Do the plaintiffs in this case have any specific credentials (military officers?) that would help them if the defendants challenged their standing?