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(Vanity) Good Historical Book on Islamic Violence?
Self ^ | 4-25-2009 | Self

Posted on 04/25/2009 9:01:47 PM PDT by TChris

I'm having a polite (so far) discussion on the old "More people have been killed in the name of Christianity than any other religion" meme with an old liberal college acquaintance.

Any good history reference material documenting the levels of Christian vs Muslim violence? (More particularly the Muslims...)


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KEYWORDS: islam; jihad; vanity
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Many thanks in advance!
1 posted on 04/25/2009 9:01:47 PM PDT by TChris
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To: TChris

The Koran


2 posted on 04/25/2009 9:05:11 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: TChris

All you need to know is that MOST genocide has and continues to occur at the hands of non-religious powers. More people have been murdered for daring to utter the words, “I believe” as in I believe in a power greater than the state. Look around you, history is repeating itself in spades.


3 posted on 04/25/2009 9:05:14 PM PDT by Binstence (Live Freep or Die)
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To: TChris

“More people have been killed in the name of Christianity than any other religion.”

Tell him to prove it.

And if he mentions the Crusades, laugh.


4 posted on 04/25/2009 9:09:15 PM PDT by Reddy
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To: TChris

The Persian massacre of 90,000 Christians during the siege of Jerusalem in 614 AD
The Muslim conquest of Syria in 637
The Muslim conquest of Armenia in 639
The Muslim conquest of Egypt, 639
The Muslim conquest of North Africa, 652
The Muslim conquering of Visigothic Christian Hispania (Spain) in 711 AD.
The Muslim siege of Constantinople 717-718
The Muslim conquest of Tbilisi, 736
The Muslim conquest of Southern Italy and the looting of the Basilica of Saint Peter in 846 AD.
The continued Muslim attacks on the Byzantine Empire which FINALLY led to the first crusade.

Funny how all we ever learn is about those evil crusaders who attacked the harmless peaceful Muslims who never threatened them...


5 posted on 04/25/2009 9:10:11 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: TChris

Why does the past even matter. Right NOW, the Muslims want to convert the entire world to their religion, at the point of a sword, if necessary.

Do we not defend ourselves because of the crusades? I’ve never even understood the premise of this argument. Even if this liberal is right, so what. I prefer to not be killed by muslims, even if it does ‘even the score’.


6 posted on 04/25/2009 9:10:34 PM PDT by lacrew (Will Kenya ever apologize to us?)
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To: TChris

Couple sites off the top of my head ...

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/


7 posted on 04/25/2009 9:12:14 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: TChris

Look at the history of the 20th century. Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Hitler, Castro,... None of them were religious leaders.


8 posted on 04/25/2009 9:12:48 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: TChris

Any book covering Islam in history would carry that material.


9 posted on 04/25/2009 9:14:25 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Being condemned for corruption by Mexico is like being lectured on morals by the adult film industry)
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To: TChris

When Islam invaded the Indian subcontinent hundreds of millions were killed. It was an extremely brutal period in human history, spanning hundreds of years. The number of deaths is difficult to estimate let alone document. I had some references on my last computer that alas, it died. I’m sure some patient Googling could resurrect the info. The impression from my brief research on this topic is that the world total killed by Islam since its invention by Mohamed could approach one billion, easily exceeding the Nazi and Communist numbers in the 20th century.

By the way, the Catholic Inquisition (that the libs and anti-Christians like to bring up) only killed a few thousand, over many decades.


10 posted on 04/25/2009 9:16:06 PM PDT by Blado (''crush the bourgeoisie...grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation'' - V.I. Lenin)
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To: TChris
Andrew Bostom - The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims. It's jaw-dropping.

And tell those ignorant jerks to get a hold of some real history, and not that Marxist crap that's rattling around in their skulls like so many dead leaves and dried insects.

11 posted on 04/25/2009 9:17:34 PM PDT by Noumenon (As long as I have a rifle, I STILL have a vote...)
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To: lacrew

Try Andrew Bostom’s _The Legacy of Jihad_.


12 posted on 04/25/2009 9:18:06 PM PDT by Poe White Trash
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To: TChris

Drop a FReepmail to LS, he might know.


13 posted on 04/25/2009 9:18:25 PM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: TChris
any other religion?

Show your friend the Wikipedia page on human sacrifice in Aztec culture.

14 posted on 04/25/2009 9:18:32 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: Binstence

Never forget that more people have died at the hands of left wing politics in less than 100 years than at the hands of Christianity for two millenia. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Hitler(even though the left tries to foist him on the right), Mugabe, and a host of two bit dictators have one thing in common, and that is they all adhered to a form of Statism, whether they called it Communism, Marxism, Fascism, or Socialism.


15 posted on 04/25/2009 9:19:24 PM PDT by yawningotter
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To: Blado

Atheist Communism killed more people in the 20th Century than all the deaths in all Christendom’s religious wars combined up to that point. Largely due to population and technology. Your friend has no idea what he’s talking about.


16 posted on 04/25/2009 9:20:26 PM PDT by ccruse456
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Hitler, Castro,... None of them were religious leaders.

Neither is Obama.....I think.....

17 posted on 04/25/2009 9:28:25 PM PDT by Loud Mime (If Christians cannot unite in battle to save this nation, it will be lost)
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To: TChris

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/


18 posted on 04/25/2009 9:34:18 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: Noumenon

Bump that book.....I’ll have to get one.


19 posted on 04/25/2009 9:36:04 PM PDT by Loud Mime (If Christians cannot unite in battle to save this nation, it will be lost)
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To: lacrew

“Why does the past even matter.”

The Past always foretells the Future. That’s why many schools require Latin with all the Latin history lessons. What The Messiah is doing now was foretold by reading the history of Neville Chamberlain and FDR.


20 posted on 04/25/2009 9:37:17 PM PDT by Rembrandt
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