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Mumbai photographer: I wish I'd had a gun, not a camera. Armed police would not fire back
Belfast Telegraph ^ | 29 November 2008 | Jerome Taylor

Posted on 11/29/2008 11:17:52 AM PST by Leisler

It is the photograph that has dominated the world's front pages, casting an astonishing light on the fresh-faced killers who brought terror to the heart of India's most vibrant city. Now it can be revealed how the astonishing picture came to be taken by a newspaper photographer who hid inside a train carriage as gunfire erupted all around him.

Sebastian D'Souza, a picture editor at the Mumbai Mirror, whose offices are just opposite the city's Chhatrapati Shivaji station, heard the gunfire erupt and ran towards the terminus. "I ran into the first carriage of one of the trains on the platform to try and get a shot but couldn't get a good angle, so I moved to the second carriage and waited for the gunmen to walk by," he said. "They were shooting from waist height and fired at anything that moved. I briefly had time to take a couple of frames using a telephoto lens. I think they saw me taking photographs but theydidn't seem to care."

The gunmen were terrifyingly professional, making sure at least one of them was able to fire their rifle while the other reloaded. By the time he managed to capture the killer on camera, Mr D'Souza had already seen two gunmen calmly stroll across the station concourse shooting both civilians and policemen, many of whom, he said, were armed but did not fire back. "I first saw the gunmen outside the station," Mr D'Souza said. "With their rucksacks and Western clothes they looked like backpackers, not terrorists, but they were very heavily armed and clearly knew how to use their rifles.

"Towards the station entrance, there are a number of bookshops and one of the bookstore owners was trying to close his shop," he recalled. "The gunmen opened fire and the shopkeeper fell down."

But what angered Mr D'Souza almost as much were the masses of armed police hiding in the area who simply refused to shoot back. "There were armed policemen hiding all around the station but none of them did anything," he said. "At one point, I ran up to them and told them to use their weapons. I said, 'Shoot them, they're sitting ducks!' but they just didn't shoot back."

As the gunmen fired at policemen taking cover across the street, Mr D'Souza realised a train was pulling into the station unaware of the horror within. "I couldn't believe it. We rushed to the platform and told everyone to head towards the back of the station. Those who were older and couldn't run, we told them to stay put."

The militants returned inside the station and headed towards a rear exit towards Chowpatty Beach. Mr D'Souza added: "I told some policemen the gunmen had moved towards the rear of the station but they refused to follow them. What is the point if having policemen with guns if they refuse to use them? I only wish I had a gun rather than a camera."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; cowardlycops; india; leo; mohammedanism; mumbai
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gunman walks at the Chatrapathi Sivaji Terminal railway station in Mumbai, India, Wednesday, Nov. 26, 2008. Teams of gunmen stormed luxury hotels, a popular restaurant, hospitals and a crowded train station in coordinated attacks across India's financial capital, killing people, taking Westerners hostage and leaving parts of the city under siege Thursday, police said. A group of suspected Muslim militants claimed responsibility. AP

1 posted on 11/29/2008 11:17:53 AM PST by Leisler
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To: Leisler
I'm thinking back to the Muslim in Utah that opened fire in the Mall and a couple of off duty LEO’s took him on.

(Did I say ‘Muslim’? I meant “a youth” and also a victim of gun violence. My bad.)

2 posted on 11/29/2008 11:20:03 AM PST by Leisler ("Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever. " Lenin)
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To: Leisler

Many Cops don’t like to risk their pension just to save others.


3 posted on 11/29/2008 11:20:44 AM PST by omega4179 (Pardon Ramos and Compean !!??? HELLO???)
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To: Leisler

I doubt any local police force would stand up against what was basically a Special Op’s force. There were brave Indians who gave their lives to stop this attack, they acted with courage, and the political leadership acted faster than the US government would have. We’d still be negotiating and sending in donuts.


4 posted on 11/29/2008 11:22:01 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Leisler

“There were armed policemen hiding all around the station but none of them did anything,” he said.

MIGHT AS WELL BE COLUMBINE...! **2nd Amendment..!**


5 posted on 11/29/2008 11:22:12 AM PST by gaijin
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UNBELIEVABLE......do they not have real bullets or was it pure cowardice that so many Mumbai police officers would not engage? Pure panic and fear, a sense that "if I don't fire at them then maybe they'll ignore ME"??? Why would armed police officers pass up the chance to take out terrorists busy shooting down so many innocent people???

But what angered Mr D'Souza almost as much were the masses of armed police hiding in the area who simply refused to shoot back. "There were armed policemen hiding all around the station but none of them did anything," he said. "At one point, I ran up to them and told them to use their weapons. I said, 'Shoot them, they're sitting ducks!' but they just didn't shoot back."

6 posted on 11/29/2008 11:23:08 AM PST by Enchante (Countless Innocents in Mumbai, India Now Face the "Religion of Peace" in Action)
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To: Leisler

The photographer was a brave man. The Indian cops are obviously a joke and are cowards. The same thing happened at Columbine where the cops waited outside for the shooting to stop.


7 posted on 11/29/2008 11:23:56 AM PST by Frantzie
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Sebastian D'Souza, a picture editor at the Mumbai Mirror, whose offices are just opposite the city's Chhatrapati Shivaji station, heard the gunfire erupt and ran towards the terminus.

Any relation to Dinesh D'Souza?

8 posted on 11/29/2008 11:24:24 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Leisler

I’m looking at that picture and wondering why the guy is still vertical. Then I read the story. Oyvey.


9 posted on 11/29/2008 11:26:01 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Leisler
To be fair, none of us knows how we would react when confronted with a situation like this.
10 posted on 11/29/2008 11:26:16 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Enchante

That’s Mohandas Gandhi’s (no Mahatma, he) non-violence come home not to roost, but to rot.


11 posted on 11/29/2008 11:28:20 AM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Ciexyz

“To be fair, none of us knows how we would react when confronted with a situation like this.”

Actually, many of us do.

But I understand your sentiment.


12 posted on 11/29/2008 11:28:35 AM PST by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: Ciexyz

None of us who aren’t “trained” LEOs you mean?


13 posted on 11/29/2008 11:29:06 AM PST by redstateconfidential (" An American Idol President")
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To: Ciexyz

You’re wrong. We do definitely know how we would react. If we had any doubts before, Todd Beamer reminded us that we would know. We would try to call our loved ones, we would pray and we would act.


14 posted on 11/29/2008 11:29:59 AM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: gaijin
A better example would be at West Virgina Tech.
15 posted on 11/29/2008 11:30:02 AM PST by Leisler ("Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever. " Lenin)
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To: Ciexyz

Were they under orders not to shoot?


16 posted on 11/29/2008 11:30:13 AM PST by Mamzelle (Boycott Peggy Swoonin')
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To: Republic of Texas
I doubt any local police force would stand up against what was basically a Special Op’s force. At Columbine, they abandoned school children and teachers, all unarmed, to a couple of teenage gunmme.

Thank God no police were hurt, only children and teachers killed. It could have been a tragedy.

17 posted on 11/29/2008 11:30:26 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Ciexyz

I’d like to think I would of bought, talked or fought the gun off the officer.


18 posted on 11/29/2008 11:31:01 AM PST by Leisler ("Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever. " Lenin)
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To: Leisler
How could you witness a slaughter like that and not want to shoot back? Were the “cops” who wouldn't shoot back muslims, too? Just curious...
19 posted on 11/29/2008 11:31:06 AM PST by GBA
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To: Ciexyz
none of us knows how we would react

Perhaps, but proper police are trained and would do something.

20 posted on 11/29/2008 11:31:53 AM PST by RightWhale (Exxon Suxx)
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