Posted on 09/30/2008 10:12:46 AM PDT by george76
Here is but one example:
Indian Express > International >
Turkish book traces terror’s origin to Darwin’s theory
ISTANBUL, November 23 A LAVISHLY illustrated Atlas of Creation is mysteriously turning up at schools and libraries in Turkey, proclaiming that Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution is the real root of terrorism. Arriving unsolicited by post, the large-format tome offers 768 glossy pages of photographs and easy-to-read text to prove that God created the world with all its species. At first sight, it looks like it could be the work of United States creationists who believe the world was created in six days as told in the Bible. But the author’s name, Harun Yahya, reveals the surprise inside. This is Islamic creationism, a richly funded movement based in predominantly Muslim Turkey which has an influence US creationists could only dream of.
Aykut Kence, biology professor at the Middle East Technical University in Ankara, said time for discussing evolution had been cut out of class schedules for the eighth grade this year. “The students will just learn there is a theory called evolution defended by Darwin back in the 19th century,” he said.
Atlas of Creation carries a book-length essay arguing that Darwinism, by stressing the “survival of the fittest,” has inspired racism, Nazism, communism and terrorism. “The root of the terrorism that plagues our planet is not any of the divine religions, but atheism, and the expression of atheism in our times (is) Darwinism and materialism,” it says.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Turkish-book-traces-terror’s-origin-to-Darwin’s-theory/17167/
The only thing correct from your source is that they DO NOT learn anything about Darwin in their Middle East education. The extent of their education is this...
“The students will just learn there is a theory called evolution defended by Darwin back in the 19th century,”
And based upon this you conclude that Terrorists from the Middle East are “Temple of Darwin fanatics”? They wouldn't know Darwin from Descartes.
Speaking of tigers, the Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka have caried more suicide bombings than any other terrorist group. And guess what, they are explicitly Marxist-Leninist (read: materialist/Temple of Darwin fanatics).
Still no evidence to support your asinine contention that the “vast majority” of terrorists are “Temple of Darwin fanatics”.
The vast majority of terrorists claim to be Islamic, quote Islamic scripture as their justification, and are applauded by large segments of Islamic society for their murderous acts.
Education for Middle Eastern terrorists doesn't include evolution, they are taught Creationism.
Complete balderdash. The Communists adopted Darwinian evolution starting with Marx and Engles, right through Lenin. Stalin then adopted the ideas of Trofim Lysenko, one of the most incompetent scientists who ever lived. Lysenko, true to form, did a hatchet job on the ideas of Jean-Baptiste Lamarck, who, despite being an evolutionist, was one of the most brilliant naturalists who ever lived (and who, coincidentally, is making quite the comeback these days).
Moreover, Stalin adopted Lysenko's ideas at a time when the majority of Western scientists had completely abandoned Darwin's fairytale in favor of rival evolutionary theories, with Lamarck's theory leading the pack. Indeed, things got so bad for Darwin's fairytale that Huxley referred to the period as the "eclipse of Darwin." The Soviets finally abandoned Lysenko's brand of pseudo-lamarckianism and readopted Darwin in the late 1950s/early 1960s.
And wouldn't you know it, the Temple of Darwin is once again in panic mode, because an ever growing number of their fellow Evos are threatening to abandon the HMS Beagle in favor of a new, very Lamarckian sounding mechanism known as adaptive (read: directed) mutation.
You are as ignorant to what is going on in Biology as you are about who we are facing off against in the war on terror.
Actually, the ignorance about what is going on in biology is entirely on your side of the debate. Indeed, you are so far behind the curve, I’m starting to think that if you ever were a scientist, you have long since retired.
I am a working Scientist, current in the field, and recently graduated.
You simply have no idea what your talking about. Both in Science and Politics.
According to your same Turkish Creationist source that claims Darwinism is responsible for terrorism, they were also responsible for 9-11.
Do you agree with the source you quoted that the 9-11 terrorists were “Temple of Darwin fanatics”?
==You simply have no idea what your talking about. Both in Science and Politics.
Right back at ya! We will see who is right in both cases. But let me make a prediction: you will lose on both counts because I already know you are clueless about the true state of Darwin’s crumbling fairytale, nor do you have a clue about the nature of the enemy we are up against. In both cases you are completely blinded by your irrational devotion to the Temple of Darwin.
Context, context my dear boy! In this case, the Temple of Darwin stands for religious materialism. According to the high priests of the Temple of Darwin, Darwin’s fairytale allows them to be intellectually fulfilled atheists/materialists.
So do you agree with your Turkish Creationist source that the 9-11 bombers were motivated by Darwinism?
How could they be when what they learned in both Science and Religion class was Creationism?
The next terrorist attack against a U.S.A. will be conducted by someone from the Middle East who claims as his motivational ideology......wait for it......ISLAM, yes Islam, the religion you love and claim is a peaceful religion that respects Christians and Jews.
And yet you, being a narrow minded ideologue, will claim, without evidence, that he is a “Temple of Darwin fanatic”.
==Do you agree with the source you quoted that the 9-11 terrorists were “Temple of Darwin fanatics”?
The exact quote from the paper is:
“Elsewhere, belief in evolution is blamed for communism, Nazism and - under a large photograph of the World Trade Centre in flames - the 9/11 attacks.”
I assume that Oktar is using evolution as a synonym for religious materialism. And if that’s how he’s using it, I couldn’t agree more.
He goes on to say:
“Hitler and Mao were Darwinists,” Mr Oktar told journalists last month on a luxury boat trip arranged to answer questions about the atlas. “Darwinism is the only philosophy which values conflict.”
I would like to have seen the full quote from the interview, but I think I get the gist of what he’s trying to say: namely, that Darwinism gives justification to all materialist philosophies that value conflict.
Do you agree with your beloved Islamic Creationist that the 9-11 terrorists were inspired by Darwinism?
What is your evidence for such a preposterous claim?
Don't you feel that the anything this idiot might say about terrorism would be tainted by such an asinine assertion as the 9-11 terrorists being influenced by Darwin?
So quit avoiding the question.
Do you think the 9-11 bombers (along with the “vast majority” of terrorists) were “Temple of Darwin” fanatics?
Well???
The 9-11 terrorists were quite clear what their motivation was.
ISLAM.
You deny it at your own peril.
Your idiocy knows no bounds if you think those fanatics even knew about Darwin or Biological evolution. They studied the Quran and listened to Osama bin Lauden.
I have given you plenty of evidence that shows that many of the so-called Islamic terrorists are in fact secular communist/socialist revolutionaries. I have shown you how Hezbollah lines the streets with hundreds of pictures celebrating the militant anti-Theist Che Guevara. I have shown you that the vast majority of Hezbollah suicide bombers turned out to be secular communist/socialist revolutionaries. I have demonstrated that al-Zawahiri—the man who merged Islamic Jihad with al-Qaeda and who is now Osama bin Laden’s #2—IS A KNOWN KGB AGENT. And I have also demonstrated, that the largest perpetrator of suicide bombing in the world is none other than the Marxist-Leninist Tamil Tigers.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg! Just admit it, Allmendream. The Temple of Darwin has blinded you to all the evidence that suggests one of our principle enemies in the War on Terror are materialist fanatics that hate God, hate His creation, and hate those who are made in His image.
You disgrace the memory of our honored dead by attempting to ascribe to their murderers an ideology (belief in a Scientific theory) they did not have and was not their motivation.
It makes me SICK that you would attempt to use our honored dead as a prop to try to knock down your strawman foe of evolution.
The statements of the 9-11 terrorist and their paymasters and motivators are unambiguous. They are motivated by Islam. They don't even learn Biological Science in their classrooms, they learn Creationism.
==Do you think the 9-11 bombers (along with the “vast majority” of terrorists) were “Temple of Darwin” fanatics?
Again, context my dear boy, context! If you mean to ask, were the 9-11 bombers Temple of Darwinist fanatics in the sense that they were radical materialist revolutionaries, then the answer is, at least in several cases, yes. This is especially so in the case of the 911 terrorist ringleader, Mohammed Atta.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.