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I Didn't Know This About Obama's Uncle, Did You? (Obama's Great Uncle: Registered 11/10/1942, Navy
Yahoo! Answers ^ | 5/28/2008 | The Wiz

Posted on 05/28/2008 8:21:52 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Here are the enlistment records of Charles W. Payne, brother of Madelyn Payne, great uncle of Obama:

Charles W. Payne, born 1924, enlisted 10 Nov '42, Navy, 6293977 REgistered, order #12019, Kansas City, Wyandotte Co., Board #4

So, Obama's great uncle liberated Buchenwald from his ship somewhere in the Pacific?

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1 posted on 05/28/2008 8:21:52 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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What say you?


2 posted on 05/28/2008 8:22:14 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Do you also post on Yahoo Answers? I do.


3 posted on 05/28/2008 8:23:25 AM PDT by indcons
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To: indcons

No.

Never thought about it.


4 posted on 05/28/2008 8:24:24 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Obeyme can lie with impunity because the DBM has his back.


5 posted on 05/28/2008 8:25:07 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Is it the same Charles W. Payne? Apparently not.


6 posted on 05/28/2008 8:25:45 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Obama have more than one great-uncle?

Or is this the one his campaign mentioned by name yesterday?


7 posted on 05/28/2008 8:25:49 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

bump


8 posted on 05/28/2008 8:26:41 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Barack’s uncle was clearly magic. That must be where he inherited his magic. It is all starting to make sense!


9 posted on 05/28/2008 8:27:41 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Stalin, Mao, Castro, Obama.)
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To: Eurale

The lies are reaching critical mass, though.

Obama cannot hide now from news and info spread over the internet, talk radio and Fox News.

His lies need only be exposed and the truth that he is a liar need only be pounded day after day on the aforementioned.


10 posted on 05/28/2008 8:27:54 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
So, Obama's great uncle liberated Buchenwald from his ship somewhere in the Pacific?

Actually, it was the North Sea...


11 posted on 05/28/2008 8:27:56 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Does he have any extended African family that he could pretend were marching on Hitler's bunker after liberating Buchenwald by some Kenyan army?

IMO, they cannot keep spinning this, so they are going to the next step. MoveOn.

12 posted on 05/28/2008 8:28:36 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Redbob
This is the one the campaign mentioned yesterday.
13 posted on 05/28/2008 8:28:44 AM PDT by Perdogg (Four years of Carter gave us 29 years of Iran; What will Hilabama give us?)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Is it the same Charles W. Payne? Apparently not.

But there is no record of a Charles W. Payne in the army....

14 posted on 05/28/2008 8:29:25 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Okay, lets not be like Obama. I see he had a great uncle who was in the Navy. Not all Navy personnel who enlisted during WWII were on ships in the Pacific ocean. Some of them were on land and some of them were on ships in the North Atlantic etc.. It would be pretty much assured that no Navy personnel were in Patton’s Army.

However, does he have other great uncles who may have served in Patton’s army? If Obama completely made up this story, I’ll be one of the first ones to pounce on it. However, lets get all of the facts out there before we determine that he was completely lying.


15 posted on 05/28/2008 8:29:37 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Arthur McGowan

Obama has been caught.

He is a liar.

His eventual nomination will soon be crushed under the weight of his lies.


16 posted on 05/28/2008 8:30:33 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Hey, Army...Navy...it was one of those military things.

Now, if Obama tells how his navy uncle liberated Auschwitz while dodging sniper fire then it'll get interesting.

17 posted on 05/28/2008 8:30:37 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Maybe it was an uncle from one of the 57 States (of course, there are 57 Islamic States, maybe it was a Freudian slip?)

One of the real sad parts about this is that his uncle was probably a fine man and a fine soldier and now references to him in the future will always be smeared thanks to Barry.

18 posted on 05/28/2008 8:32:01 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Related....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2022397/posts


19 posted on 05/28/2008 8:32:07 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas on Memorial Day, 2008:

"As we landed at the local airport today, I had to run from the plane ducking Bosnian sniper bullets until I got into my 50' stretch bullet proof SUV. While running and ducking sniper bullets, I remembered my crazy uncle in the attic, who might have served in WWII, in the Army or maybe the Navy."

Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas will not be known as Honest Abe. Instead he will be known as: Dishonest Ibrahim Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas !

Damn Pajama Media and Internet. I can’t lie anymore!

20 posted on 05/28/2008 8:32:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas's Pastor Wright: "God Damn America, U.S.to Blame for 9/11")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
http://www.kshs.org/genealogists/military/wwiiveteransresults.php?page=421&branch=N

Nope, no Army listings for a Charles Payne, just Navy...

21 posted on 05/28/2008 8:33:49 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Obama's Cousin, Major Payne:


22 posted on 05/28/2008 8:33:56 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Is there anyone who has access to see when Obama’s great uncle got back in the states. It would be nice to see if he started work right after his service or if he indeed stayed in his attick for 6 weeks. I really think that is hard to believe. Would be nice to find out when he started employment when coming back from war.


23 posted on 05/28/2008 8:34:23 AM PDT by bw04wb
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
His lies need only be exposed and the truth that he is a liar need only be pounded day after day on the aforementioned.

You assume that the 'lied to' will be offended, Bill Clinton never bothered the left. The left seems to only be offended by the truth.

24 posted on 05/28/2008 8:34:32 AM PDT by txroadkill (Liberals believe that the only oppressed people in Cuba are the terrorist in GitMo)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
A few possibilities:

Payne, Charles E. Inducted 9 June 1943, Army 37531353 Registered, order # V11125 Augusta, Butler Co. (Board # 2)  
Payne, Charles W. Enlisted , Navy 6287657 Registered, order # 11111 Hutchinson, Reno Co. (Board # 3)  
Payne, Charles W. Enlisted 10 November 1942, Navy 6293977 Registered, order # 12017 Kansas City, Wyandotte Co. (Board # 4)  

25 posted on 05/28/2008 8:35:10 AM PDT by Tatze (I'm in a state of taglinelessness!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

His great cousin liberated Art Buchwald.


26 posted on 05/28/2008 8:35:35 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Hussein could say his uncle landed on the moon and the media would try to make it true.


27 posted on 05/28/2008 8:36:15 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Perdogg

Thanks.


28 posted on 05/28/2008 8:36:26 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Hussein could say his uncle landed on the moon and the media would try to make it true.


29 posted on 05/28/2008 8:36:34 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Homer1

ooops those are the Navy only listings...my bad!


30 posted on 05/28/2008 8:37:21 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: Homer1

It seems clear that this statement is timed with his efforts to capture the Jewish vote. Is that just coincidence? I saw a quote from 2002 where BHO made the same statement but stated it was his grandfather, not uncle.


31 posted on 05/28/2008 8:37:21 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Stalin, Mao, Castro, Obama.)
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To: dead

LOL


32 posted on 05/28/2008 8:37:34 AM PDT by indcons
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To: txroadkill

Problem is, is that independents will be voting, too, and most of them don’t like lies.


33 posted on 05/28/2008 8:38:57 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Tatze

Agusta, Butler County is adjacent to Wichita, KS where his grand parents lived.


34 posted on 05/28/2008 8:39:24 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

You know, I was willing to accept that Obama mistakenly named Auschwitz instead of Buchenwald or wherever else the COncentration Camp was. Errors happen. I was even willing to give slack when he said Uncle instead of Great Uncle.
But to explain away such misstatements with a lie is an insult to us, and it reveals his original statement was also a lie to start with.


35 posted on 05/28/2008 8:39:46 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Wonder how long it will take for Obama to say we can’t talk about his uncle?


36 posted on 05/28/2008 8:40:22 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: bill1952

With no conventional family unit to speak of, grandmothers who are not related by blood but by marriage, like grandpa’s #3 wife, are easy to produce. All are relatives of convenience to fit the speech of the day in order to connect to the group of the moment! Grandma - mothers, uncle - Jews, etc. etc.


37 posted on 05/28/2008 8:40:33 AM PDT by Melinda
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

One thing I will say. If it turns out that Obama completely made this story up and he was caught, I know what the explanation will be:

“Well, uncle Chuck and others told this story so many times, I believed it was true.”

Time to throw another typical white guy under the bus. Uncle Chuck was probably clinging to his guns and Bible anyways. He deserved to be thrown under the bus.


38 posted on 05/28/2008 8:40:44 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Obama's great uncle liberated Buchenwald from his ship somewhere in the Pacific?

A good ships' yeoman can arrange ANYTHING.
39 posted on 05/28/2008 8:40:56 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Homer1
http://www.kshs.org/genealogists/military/wwiiveteransresults.php?page=1036&branch=A

Here are the Army listings...I don't see a Cherles W Payne listed....

40 posted on 05/28/2008 8:42:20 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: Tatze

His grandmother was from Augusta Kansas, so that has been my bet all along in this. I think they got middle initial wrong in genealogy. Someone in Kansas needs to go to county clerks office in county which Augusta is in and check this out. If his great uncle is actually Charles W payne, then Obama is certainly lying, and the burden of proof will be on him to provide some sort of evidence that his great uncle served in Army rather than the Navy as it appears now.


41 posted on 05/28/2008 8:43:18 AM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Now, if Obama tells how his navy uncle liberated Auschwitz while dodging sniper fire then it'll get interesting.

or if he claims that his uncle liberated the Hanoi Hilton and was the first one to shake John McCain's hand upon being freed, that would be really interesting....

42 posted on 05/28/2008 8:45:13 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’ve long detected a phenomenon among liberals, that their utter ignorance of real history allows them to MAKE UP a history that suits them.

Works OK at cocktail parties, since none of their circles of aquaintance can correct them, being just as ignorant. The Clintons and now Obama have taken this into the national media.

Thanks be to God we have FR and the rest of the blogosphere to set the record straight. The MSM, being equally stupid, is unable to. (Not that they would.)


43 posted on 05/28/2008 8:46:44 AM PDT by Supercharged Merlin (The way to take money out of politics is to take the politics out of money !)
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To: Homer1

I have already sent the info to Drudge, lets see if he uses it or continues to cover for the messiah. Sent him Obama geneaology info showing great uncle as Charles ‘W’ Payne and Kansas WWII vets info showing only Charles W’ Paynes served in Navy. Only Charles ‘E’ Payne served in Army.


44 posted on 05/28/2008 8:47:01 AM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I wonder if his uncle was, like his grand mother,
a typical white person.
barbra ann
45 posted on 05/28/2008 8:47:01 AM PDT by barb-tex ( A prudent man (more so for a woman) foreseeth the evil and hideth him self,)
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To: theDentist

Well, that’s exactly why Barry has him living in an attic for months after his return. He can always say that if it wasn’t true, then his crazy uncle must have lied, and then Barry’s off the hook.


46 posted on 05/28/2008 8:47:10 AM PDT by Melinda
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

http://genealogy.about.com/od/aframertrees/p/obama_two.htm

It’s Charles W. Payne


47 posted on 05/28/2008 8:48:30 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Maybe He Sailed Up The Rhine

OK, when we last left our hero, his unclegreat-uncle had liberated AuschwitzBuchenwald while in the army. Or did he?

His only Great Uncle is Charles W. Payne. It at least appears that no one by that name from Kansas served in the Army during WWII.

Charles W. Payne of Kansas, with a similar birth era, served in the Navy during WWII.

What Obama’s campaign released via first link above states he served in the Infantry. I assume it’s possible the records are wrong, or he changed branches. But I’m unaware of that as a standard practice. Perhaps it happened during WWII for manpower reasons? Otherwise, Obama’s Great Uncle would seem to have done most of his marching and liberating while at sea.

Hey, maybe the story is fake, but accurate.

You know, if I were an Obama staffer, I’d start fact checking everything he says, to try to stay ahead of the blogosphere. If this turns out to be true, that press release that the campaign put out yesterday is going to be pretty embarrassing.

[Update a few minutes later]

There’s no “Charles W. Payne” listed as having served in the 89th Infantry Division. The closest it comes is a Pfc “C. T. Payne,” which even if it’s a Charles, has the wrong middle initial.

I think that yesterday’s press release has to be considered non-operative at this point.

[Update a few minutes later]

More at The Virginian, which notes that Buchenwald was a slave labor camp, not a Jewish extermination site, so it’s less convenient than Auschwitz for political purposes:

what we appear to have is something that’s commonly known as “resume inflation.” And that’s what you get when you have a man who has no real experience. When what you have is an empty suit who is trying to pretend that there is substance there.

But what was the point of the fable? The point was really to try to connect with the American people by telling them how callous the government is about the emotional problems of its soldiers. The “uncle” is supposed to have spent six months in the attic, having experienced the sights he encountered in the liberation of Ohrdruf, an experience that may have lasted less than three hours.

The punch line is that Obama will make sure that America’s fighting men and will get all the mental care they deserve.

That’s it. That’s the punch line. That’s the reason for the fable. That’s what American fighting men are good for: a story line for a health care pitch. And the combat vet is cast in the eternal role that the Liberals have created for him: the crazy uncle in the attic. Just wait until Barack discovers another uncle whose wartime experiences drove him to drink and living in the street when he isn’t shooting up a beer hall on Saturday nights.

Yes, that’s what bothers me about this story, even if it’s true. As is usually the case with Democrats, they seem unable to talk about the military without slandering them or making them out to be victims.

http://www.transterrestrial.com/archives/2008/05/maybe_he_sailed.html


48 posted on 05/28/2008 8:48:34 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Obama's Great Uncle: Registered 11/10/1942, Navy

It's not hard to figure out!

Here's a pic of the submarine Barry's uncle was on, climbing the rocks during the invasion of Germany. Eventually this submarine made it all the way to Auschwitz, where then Barry's uncle jumped out and helped free the imprisoned Jews.

VISUAL PROOF OF THE STORY, BAYBEE!


49 posted on 05/28/2008 8:49:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“If Obama completely made up this story, I’ll be one of the first ones to pounce on it. However, lets get all of the facts out there before we determine that he was completely lying.”

Could it be that his Navy uncle was a medic serving with the Marines and thusly could have been in Europe?

One way or the other, he has an “out”. He can simply say, “Well, it was a family story. That’s what I was always told. If it’s inaccurate then the family lied to me.”


50 posted on 05/28/2008 8:49:54 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron ("Terisn" is my new favorite word. Thank you, Allegra.)
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