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Democrats to force votes on who gets rebates
The Houston Chronicle ^ | January 31, 2008 | JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS

Posted on 01/31/2008 12:18:57 PM PST by BradtotheBone

WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats said today they would force votes next week on adding rebates for senior citizens and disabled veterans and heating aid for the poor to the House-passed economic stimulus package.

The move marked a lapse in the broad bipartisan cooperation that sped the stimulus plan through the House, and set the stage for a contentious fight between Republicans who are balking at adding to the bill and Democrats who believe it should be larger.

"Democrats have spoken on how this package can be improved," said Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

He said the measure was still on track for completion by Feb. 15. "We are doing this as fast as we can," he said.

But Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said the proposed add-ons were slowing down rebate checks for millions of Americans, now expected to be delivered starting in May.

"The stimulus train is grinding to a halt here in the U.S. Senate," McConnell said.

Under Reid's plan for Senate action on the stimulus package, the Senate could vote as early as Monday on a bill that would tack $32 billion onto the House measure with rebates of $500-$1,000 to all but the richest taxpayers, with more for families with children.

Approved by the Finance Committee on Wednesday with just three Republican votes, the package also would expand rebate eligibility to 20 million older Americans on Social Security and to disabled veterans, and it would provide an unemployment extension for those whose benefits have run out.

The Senate measure would pump $193 billion into the economy over the next two years, compared with the $161 billion House measure that would send $600-$1,200 rebates to a narrower group.

Democrats in the Senate don't expect to be able to muster the 60 votes they would need to pass the measure, so they will follow up with efforts to add their favorite items — including jobless benefits, food stamps and heating aid for the poor and housing relief — to the House bill, Reid said.

They also plan to hold separate votes on adding heating aid and rebates for seniors and disabled veterans, which would pose a sticky dilemma for Republicans facing re-election.

"It's tough votes for them," said Sen. Charles E. Schumer of New York, who heads the Democrats' Senate campaign arm.

If none of their proposals attracts enough backing to win approval, the Senate will pass the House measure, Reid said.

The bill approved by the Finance Committee would extend unemployment payments for 13 weeks for those whose benefits have run out, with 26 more weeks available in states with the highest unemployment rates. The only state that currently meets the trigger is Michigan.

Labor unions are pressing hard for the extension. The AFL-CIO circulated a letter to senators Thursday urging them to include it in the final stimulus bill.

Democrats said it would be difficult for senators to oppose sending rebate checks to seniors, who also have been lobbying intensively to be included in the stimulus bill.

The Senate measure would deliver flat rebates of $500 for individuals and $1,000 for couples to anyone earning at least $3,000, with income limits of $150,000 for individuals and $300,000 for couples. The rebate would phase out for those making more, disappearing altogether for individuals with income of $160,000 for individuals and $320,000 for couples. The caps would be higher for those with children.

It also goes farther than the House package in efforts to bar illegal immigrants from receiving rebates. Under the Senate measure, recipients and their spouses and children would need valid Social Security numbers to qualify. The House bill omits that requirement, although it expressly disqualifies nonresident aliens.

Today, House leaders indicated they would move to clarify a provision in their version of the bill to stipulate that no rebates could go to illegal immigrants.

"We will take legislative action to clarify and underscore this prohibition so we can expedite the rebates to millions of eligible Americans," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Republican Leader John A. Boehner of Ohio, said in a joint statement.

The Senate plan would restore a business tax break dropped during the House negotiations that would permit corporations suffering losses now to reclaim taxes previously paid.

Both packages include roughly $50 billion worth of tax incentives for businesses to invest in new plants and equipment.


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To: cowdog77

Why we all haven’t gathered in our various Town Squares with torches and pitchforks is beyond me!


61 posted on 01/31/2008 1:47:29 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I don’t understand that either, Diana!


62 posted on 01/31/2008 2:01:22 PM PST by varina davis
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The lovely police state that is the United States now will not allow it... it would be considered a seditious act...


63 posted on 01/31/2008 2:12:14 PM PST by erikm88
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To: Graybeard58

Give everyone a million dollars and be done with it
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
If you ‘UPPED’ everyone 1 million dollars, you would just have POOR MILLIONAIRES still on welfare, with nothing else changing.... etc etc etc


64 posted on 01/31/2008 2:18:29 PM PST by xrmusn
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To: xrmusn
If you ‘UPPED’ everyone 1 million dollars, you would just have POOR MILLIONAIRES still on welfare, with nothing else changing.... etc etc etc

No one goes for my idea to build more treasury departments in all the cities in the U.S. to print more money either. Think of all the new jobs created printing all that money, not to mention the additional truck drivers needed to haul it around from place to place.

65 posted on 01/31/2008 2:23:07 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: erikm88

Perhaps...

But I’m not going to continue working the obscene hours I do just to pay more in taxes for everyone elses ‘rebate’...in the name of refusing to cower to the Socialists.

And actually, I think the Socialists in America hope/expect that I will actually work harder and longer to maintain my lifestyle as they suck off more of my income...and they are mistaken.


66 posted on 01/31/2008 2:30:15 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: erikm88

Yep. And yet traitors in Congress roam free and get re-elected time and again. Go figure!


67 posted on 01/31/2008 2:32:31 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Graybeard58

But if they give everyone a million dollars, then there will be inflation. Better to give everyone 2 million dollars instead.


68 posted on 01/31/2008 2:36:56 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine

Go to #64 and replace 1 million with 2....


69 posted on 01/31/2008 2:56:24 PM PST by xrmusn
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To: ex-snook
"I sure as hell want to know who would deny economic assistance to senior citizens."

Senior citizens are the richest people in the country. They've had a lifetime to save and invest. After all that they get free healthcare and drugs paid for by my taxes. And they get a social security check (that I will never get) courtesy of current workers too.

70 posted on 01/31/2008 5:03:08 PM PST by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: jiggyboy
More injection of spending money.
71 posted on 01/31/2008 10:07:43 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: boop

Don’t worry you will get a SS check the same as we are. Inflation took the money we saved and made in zilch. Incomes are now at least 20 times higher than what we paid into SS. When you retire incomes will be 20 times todays. Starting pay should be around $1,000,000. When they pay into SS you will get your paltry current payments back in no time at all. And at the time time what you have saved will have the interest reduced by the Fed so that your fixed income will decrease. Good luck.


72 posted on 02/01/2008 8:13:54 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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