Golden Compass Getting Bad Reviews

rottentomatoes ^ | 12-6-07 | self

[MrB]

“judgement” is the #1 feared word on the left.

[Kieri]

I’ll ask Richard, a friend of mine (I run with a strange crowd!) who develops and publishes RPG’s. Ever heard of “Bureau 13” or “Fringeworthy”? He’s the creator. He keeps up on gaming news and knows a LOT of people in the biz so I’ll check with him.

I’m betting it’s tied up in licensing. Boy, I’d buy the Sourcebook just for all the lovely detail out of the Silmarillion!

[tioga]

LOL.....did she think that line would encourage families to go see it?

[Greg F]

Sort of how God might play chess with the Devil!

Who then throws a tantrum and starts randomly breaking as many pieces as he can even after he has lost the game . . .

[VOA]

The film isn't really anti-religion, especially at anywhere near
the hysteria some have assumed.

But that's the point for some folks.
They understand that the anti-religion of the book has been
purposely diluted.
To increase the chance of good boxoffice $$$$...and a greenlight
for the next film in the series.

At which point it might be safe to make the next film more faithful
to the source book.

Having the first film with much less anti-religionism is a smart
move for two reasons:
1. $$$$$$$$$
2. a kinder, gentler incrementalist route to "spreading the (atheist) word".

[Kieri]

I’ll ask Richard, a friend of mine (I run with a strange crowd!) who develops and publishes RPG’s. Ever heard of “Bureau 13” or “Fringeworthy”? He’s the creator. He keeps up on gaming news and knows a LOT of people in the biz so I’ll check with him. I’m betting it’s tied up in licensing. Boy, I’d buy the Sourcebook just for all the lovely detail out of the Silmarillion!

Oh for cryn' out loud...I meant "Narnia," NOT "Lord of the Rings"

I need to talk to my doctor about my meds....sorry!

[Kieri]

The only “bad review” that I want to see on this movie is a negative return on investment for those that sank money into it.

If "Compass" came out last Friday, I don't remember seeing any box office numbers on Monday. Normally Drudge posts them when an anti-US, anti-military film flops but there's no word about this mess.

[ctdonath2]

The trick would be getting the RPG to reward upright behavior, and discouraging violence while rewarding skill therein when unavoidable.

Being interested in game writing, I’m puzzling over the problem of porting books to games: the latter focus on achieving an unbroken chain of successes, whereas stories are interesting precisely because the protagonist _fails_ to some degree. Ex.: “Romeo and Juliet: The Game” would suck precisely because the end goal would have to be “and they lived happily ever after”; a tragedy is great material precisely because the main character _loses_.

[arderkrag]

The trick would be getting the RPG to reward upright behavior, and discouraging violence while rewarding skill therein when unavoidable.

D&D 4th ed., which is in the works, will include a "social challenge" mechanic which will reward players based on roleplay goals.

[arderkrag]

Cool. I’m the creator of mudgrips and big rigs, a homebrew d20 game downloadable for free at http://www.geocities.com/arderkrag. If he decides to look into it, tell him I’ll be happy to collaborate design ideas.

[Greg F]

Released December 1, 2007 (sneak peek)
December 7, 2007
Production Budget $250,000,000
Prints and Advertising Budget $59,000,000

Gross is 0 . . . release tommorrow.

[DallasMike]

The film isn't really anti-religion, especially at anywhere near the hysteria some have assumed.

I haven't seen the film, but the trilogy was okay until towards the end, when the author went into a positively wacko anti-religion rant for several chapters which had nothing to do with the story. Same with another series of his I read, except this time the target was capitalism.

C.S. Lewis he ain't. Supposedly J.K Rowling based Gilderoy, one of the characters in the Potter series, upon the author of these books.

[Betty Jane]

My 13 year old received a few emails from various circles of friends alerting her to the anti-religion theme. She has passed it on to other groups of kid. So it is not just the Catholic League getting the word.

This is the age group the movie can't lose. They are old enough to see the movie, but young enough to need an adult's extra ticket price. If they don't go, who will? From the trailer it looks too scary for kids 9 and under and looks too childish for High School kids.

I'm glad she doesn't want to see it. We saw the trailers over Thanksgiving and it looked boring. When ever reviews praise the special effects or cinematography first, you know the story stinks.

[MrB]

$309 mill + sunk into this bad boy...

so even if it grosses 200 mill, it’ll be a “victory”.

[Greg F]

Yah, they bet someone’s farm on this picture.

[Greg F]

“Perelandra” would make a very good game with those characteristics . . . victory in one section would not be victory in the next and so forth.

[ConfusedAndLovingIt]

"You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil

Gen. 3:22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

Guess the serpent was right about the good and evil part. And it wasn't sure that they would die. It was only because God specifically ensured it by preventing them from eating from the tread of life. Sounds to me like that ol' serpent knew what he was talking about. ;-)

[Greg F]

Appropriate “handle” . . .!

[ZULU]

Wait for THIS one. It looks MUCH better!

http://www.redbaron -themovie. com/

[Cicero]

I printed out a copy of the NYPost book review to show my grandchildren, because this is the kind of movie they would normally want to see. The main talking point is that it’s booooring.