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Posted on 10/13/2006 8:07:46 AM PDT by silentknight

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To: roses of sharon

while validly pointing out all the different powers that be in this country that are influential and heavily left leaning, the bottom line is President Bush has the ultimate say as his fingers are on all the controls that count


61 posted on 10/13/2006 9:19:48 AM PDT by jhp
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To: silentknight

Sad joke at a sad organization.


62 posted on 10/13/2006 9:21:46 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Fitzcarraldo

"I don't think China is afraid of too much...NK is their lapdog and"

But their lapdog's populations has been starving since 1950s. Of course, the Chinese soldiers could shoot the refugees on site while crossing the border. No cable news out there.


63 posted on 10/13/2006 9:23:36 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: silentknight

The spineless UN has once again dumped the problem into our lap.


64 posted on 10/13/2006 9:29:17 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
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To: jhp
Yup:

a) failure to clean-out the CIA after 9/11;
b) failure to go after the leakers starting in 2004;
c) failure to go after the press working with the leakers;
d) failure to go after the press hiring terrorists as stringers;
e) failure to go after domestic traitors like Code Pink;
f) failure to use the force necessary to crush the Baath and al Sadr and to restore order in Iraq;
g) failure to beef up ground forces for an extended occupation;
h) failure to kick the Dems in the nuts and to focus the national spotlight on their collusion with leftist cockroaches;
i) failure to enforce immigration control;
j) failure to recruit good conservative candidates for the GOP and supporting RINO's and any sleazebag member of the swinger's Club Incumbent.
k) failure to control spending;

Every single one of these failures led to a press filled with enemy and Dem propaganda, a heartened enemy abroad and a depressed base at home.

The Dems and our foreign enemies can smell the weakness now oozing out of the Bush Administration.

65 posted on 10/13/2006 9:29:19 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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66 posted on 10/13/2006 9:31:43 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: areafiftyone

OK, then I say we lay an import tarrif / withhold aid with any country that supplies arms to NK, and then expects to trade with us.


67 posted on 10/13/2006 9:39:39 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: silentknight
1. 90% chance the House will go Dem.
2. 80% chance Senate will go Dem.
3. If House goes Dem, 80% chance Bush and Chaney will be impeached.
4. If Senate goes Dem, 65% chance they will be removed.

Bottom line, at best 37.44% chance Nancy Pelosi will be President of the United States one year from today.

Of course, it could never happen... and of course, in 1992, Bush was delighted he could face the worst possible Dem candidate, Governor Billy Clinton.

And remember, media wants more than ever before to prove that can bring down this President.
68 posted on 10/13/2006 9:40:39 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: pierrem15

One can only hope GW takes no prisoners after the fall elections, clean the rats out of all levels, arrest them for treason if the law stipulates that is what the leakers are doing.


69 posted on 10/13/2006 9:41:06 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: pierrem15

See # 68.


70 posted on 10/13/2006 9:41:26 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: jhp
It's only the bottom line if one is obsessed with the survival/demise of President Bush.

I am not, and have never been.

Waiting around and fighting about, and for, one human being, one man, one women, the "next" Reagan, has been our demise in the first place.

In the meantime the left penetrates even deeper.

Maybe it's just a chicken and egg dilemma, but my position is that the small amount of us who know and care, should be plotting, planning, suing, campaigning against, exposing, educating, discrediting, ect, our enemies within.

Starting from grassroots, the ground-up, in our states ect.

Then and only then can the masses elect Conservative/Republican/Libertarian/Patriots/Constutional, and truly Rightwing, Reps and Presidents.
71 posted on 10/13/2006 9:41:44 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

If China wanted to change things in NK, it could do so in a second.


72 posted on 10/13/2006 9:45:56 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: pierrem15
a) failure to clean-out the CIA after 9/11;

You know the CIA hasn't been cleaned out?

I would guess Negroponte is a start.

73 posted on 10/13/2006 9:48:41 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Fitzcarraldo
"If China wanted to change things in NK, it could do so in a second"

That's why GW should tell the American public that you best buy your Chinese built TV's now, because in 6 months tariff to the NK enablers is going up 15%
74 posted on 10/13/2006 9:53:31 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: FreeReign
All of the politically damaging crap that came out in 2004 was a clue.

So is the fact that the CIA failed to anticipate the NK bomb test.

We are paying $20 billion a year so a bunch of liberals can read foreign newspapers and then call that 'intelligence'. It's not suprising our NIE's sound like the International Herald Tribune.

We have no effective human intel programs as far as I can see against any of our most recent or current enemies: Iraq, Iran, NK, so what 'intel' are the CIA analysts actually analyzing?

75 posted on 10/13/2006 9:59:54 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: Dog Gone

I've been here right along. I've also, as you have, been observing the total disconnect between the Condi stated foreign policy aims and the actual foreign policy results. Of course the best glaring example was during the Israel-Hizbolla affair where she so publicly demanded that the only cease-fire that should come about was one that did not leave everything at the "status quo ante"; and the actual cease fire did exactly that and worse in terms of Hizbolla.

Notice how the Bush doctrine on both Korea and Iran has gone from ther understanding that neither of those countries should have nukes, to now saying they simply should not be allowed to trade or share their nukes.

The DOD could have eliminated the Mahdi (Shia) army in Iraq, organized, controlled, supplied and funded by Iran a long time ago (as Rummy has wanted to do), and since they are a major source of the sectarian violence from Shia to Sunnis, they are a major source of continued instability in Iraq (which is Iran's aim to begin with). But Condi and Burns have blocked those efforts. Now, if the Shia get a truly autonomous region under the "federalism" bill pushed through in Iraq, the Shia region will be under the full control of Tehran as an indentured client. Thank you Condi.
(Oh, and we know the locations in Iran where the IEDs used in Iraq are produced, but we cannot attack them. Thanks again Rice and Burns)

Prior to the 2004 elections, Bush had a robust foreign policy and his stated goals and aims were pushed and proded, with lackluster enthusiasm, by the State Department under Colin Powell.

We were led to believe that Condi was appointed due to her loyalty to Bush. Then, when conservatives' attention was directed elsewhere, she named and received confirmation on the appointment of Nicholas Burns as her Deputy Undersecretary for Political Affairs. He last previous role prior to that had been as the lead foreign policy advisor to the POTUS campaign of John Kerry; and it one of Condi's mentors, the RINO Chuck Hagel that made the suggestion to Condi.

If you want to read the framework of the course of our foreign policy after that point - talk and retreat, talk and retreat, talk and retreat - you only need to read the foreign policy white papers put out by the Kerry team in the runup to the election. Burns was a chief architect of them and they pretty much define how he and Condi have pursued our "diplomacy" since then.


76 posted on 10/13/2006 10:07:23 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: jveritas

I would love to be wrong, nothing would make me happier. Unfortunately, I am not. We will be directly attacked, and worse than 911, before any of the developing means for those attacks are ever dealt with. We will retreat into the false peace of international agreements that mask that reality for a time, until our sleep is awakend again. Our grandchildren will disown us.


77 posted on 10/13/2006 10:13:45 AM PDT by Wuli
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We'd better be prepared to go it alone.

Not completely alone. SK is about to change leadership and Japan will re-arm.
78 posted on 10/13/2006 10:15:35 AM PDT by BJClinton (Celebrate diversity: re-elect Congressman Foley!)
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To: pierrem15
I would guess Negroponte is a start.

All of the politically damaging crap that came out in 2004 was a clue.

Negroponte was appointed in 2005. As I said, I would guess Negroponte is a start.

So is the fact that the CIA failed to anticipate the NK bomb test.

You don't have a clue.

79 posted on 10/13/2006 10:21:07 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: b4its2late

I know, but what about keeping a Republican in office?


80 posted on 10/13/2006 10:30:32 AM PDT by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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