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Judge: No Deal For Teacher Who Slept With Her Student
The Indy Channel ^ | March 21, 2006 | AP

Posted on 03/21/2006 11:29:17 AM PST by Abathar

OCALA, Fla. -- A Florida judge said a plea deal for a Tampa teacher accused of having sex with a 14-year-old would "erode public confidence in" schools.

Marion County Circuit Judge Hale Stencil has rejected the plea deal for Debra Lafave, 25. The judge said the deal would undermine the credibility of the criminal justice system.

Prosecutors and the defense lawyer had urged the judge to accept the deal for the good of the boy. A psychiatrist told the judge the boy suffered extreme anxiety because of intense media coverage of the case and does not want to testify.

Lafave was charged in two counties where she's accused of having sex with the student.

A judge in Hillsborough County accepted a plea deal there in November and sentenced Lafave to three years of house arrest and seven years' probation. She pleaded guilty in November to two counts of lewd and lascivious battery for having sex with the boy in a classroom and her home.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: justshutupandtakeit

the charges will be dropped now - the plea deal was something at least, now she walks. she walks right over to Playboy.


61 posted on 03/21/2006 11:49:06 AM PST by oceanview
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To: justshutupandtakeit
So the jedge says to plea bargin this case would "undermine" the credibility of the justice system. And this is a system which routinely pleads down murder, manslaughter and mayhem of EVERY type.

So this judge should just throw in the towel on trying to keep up the integrity of the court?

62 posted on 03/21/2006 11:49:25 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: monday
14 year old boys can't get pregnant. 14 year old girls can.

Fine. Then say it was a vasectomized male teacher that women would consider stunningly handsome - in a Clooney/Pitt category of appeal.

What if it was your 14 year old daughter?

63 posted on 03/21/2006 11:49:30 AM PST by wideawake
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To: monday

"Apples and oranges. 14 year old boys can't get pregnant. 14 year old girls can."

So a 14 year old boy is old enough to be a father? With a crazy loon as the mother? Pay child support?


64 posted on 03/21/2006 11:49:33 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: monday

"Apples and oranges. 14 year old boys can't get pregnant. 14 year old girls can."

So a 14 year old boy is old enough to be a father? With a crazy loon as the mother? Pay child support?


65 posted on 03/21/2006 11:49:33 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: frogjerk
I don't blame him as much as I do his parents, or lack there of. Certainly a real Mother wouldn't want this going on and neither would a real Father.

Let's get real here. First of all, this case is fairly unusual (I assume).
I don't know if you have sons, but in all honesty...

...tell us how, when they were (or will be) 14, you will call them aside and somberly instruct them, "Son, if a drop-dead gorgeous married woman ever hits on you, here is what you should do..." ??

Any more subtle alternative is literally impossible, and probably equally ineffective except for the abnormal.

66 posted on 03/21/2006 11:50:07 AM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: wallcrawlr

Ever been in a high school locker room in the late 70's? There would have been major bragging going on, believe me.


67 posted on 03/21/2006 11:50:25 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
So the judge says to plea bargin this case would "undermine" the credibility of the justice system.

This is the same justice system that rewards political hacks with judgeships without regard to their courtroom experience, ethics, legal knowledge, or temprement.

68 posted on 03/21/2006 11:50:39 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: wideawake

Excellent point.

And what if said daughter had a very high IQ and was on the pill and practiced safe sex.

Personaly, girls being more mature emotionally are better candidates for this kind of stuff.

(OK, you know I'm being relatively sarcastic, doncha ;) )


69 posted on 03/21/2006 11:51:12 AM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: jslade
Neal Boortz on one of his shows said that she probably ruined the boy forever. Inasmuch as he will never be able to top this babe and will be frustrated for the rest of his life.

Look she's pretty but she's not THAT pretty.

70 posted on 03/21/2006 11:51:19 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Islam's true face: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J169127BC)
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To: tx_eggman

Thank you for pointing that out to him. He needs to put his thinking cap on before he comments about this disgusting, sorry excuse for a teacher.


71 posted on 03/21/2006 11:52:13 AM PST by derllak
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To: blaquebyrd
Talk about sick...

You are suggesting that she probably has AIDS either because she is married, or from her presumed "other boy victims".

That is totally a normal adult thought.

< /sarc >

72 posted on 03/21/2006 11:52:30 AM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Abathar
If my 14 year old son did do something like this I would be disappointed with him, but I would certainly blame the teacher and not him for having it happen.

Agreed. In spite of whatever his hormonal state was, she committed a felony .. period, end of story.

They can't prosocute because his mom doesn't want him to testify (I'm pretty cetrain he's had all the spotlight from this he can stand) .. so the perp dodges jail time.

It's my belief that there shouldn't be any difference in outcome whether it's female perp / male victim of the other way around.

The kid may have willingly jumped on it but the perp knew it was a felony.

73 posted on 03/21/2006 11:52:31 AM PST by tx_eggman (Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
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To: oceanview
THis judge just screwed the pooch with this ruling. At least the Plea bargain put the conviction on her record, and she would have been on probation.

Instead, the judge save the "Integrity" of the judicial system, but since the family doesn't want the boy to testify, the charges will be dropped and for all intents and purposes the crime will have never been committed.

74 posted on 03/21/2006 11:53:02 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: wagglebee

"So if your 14 year old son impregnated his teacher you would be okay with it?"

No, but I would be a lot more okay with it than if a teacher impregnated my 14 year old daughter. You don't see a difference?


75 posted on 03/21/2006 11:53:02 AM PST by monday
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To: Logic n' Reason

Crazy eyes, too. They say the crazy wimmin are the most fun in bed. ;~)


76 posted on 03/21/2006 11:53:31 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: wideawake
If my son slept with a married woman I'd blame him plenty, since that isn't how he was raised.

I completely understand this, and for society to function and to keep from getting killed, your expectations of your son are spot on, but the moral responsiblilty lies with the married person. The single person has made no promises or committments.

77 posted on 03/21/2006 11:53:39 AM PST by NeonKnight (We don't believe you, you need more people.)
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To: Publius6961
...tell us how, when they were (or will be) 14, you will call them aside and somberly instruct them, "Son, if a drop-dead gorgeous married woman ever hits on you, here is what you should do..." ??

Thou shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors' wife.

78 posted on 03/21/2006 11:53:55 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: monday
I'm sorry, I know how incorrect this is to say, but it's a simple truth --

This boy is not a 'victim'. He was not 'victimized'.

That's the difference. For a girl, she would regret for the rest of her life having had a fling with a teacher.

Not so for the boy in this case.

79 posted on 03/21/2006 11:54:36 AM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: trubluolyguy
Yes blind but not stupid.

LOL!

80 posted on 03/21/2006 11:54:45 AM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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