Posted on 03/20/2006 2:37:35 PM PST by Hannah Senesh
It is the pacifits who have lost the ability to think and reason. Islam is an idiology that is well focused and brainwashed into it's followers, they are united and determined to achieve their goals.
No amount of talk will change that. Talk is a weakness in their eyes, and we are very weak, because we are determined to talk instead of doing what must be done. Hitler talked as well, he used talk to buy himself time to gain strength and buld defenses. These "Islamic fundamentalists" who see Hitler as a prophet second to only Mohammad, as a person who used Mohammad's war manual to great benifit, and have learn from Hitlers mistakes. This time, the more "talk" they can drag their enemies (us) in, the more time they can buy to assure their success in achieving their goals. There is no doubt in my mind they have already built a nuclear weapon. Now, talk and time is only allowing them to build more, and better ones.
"We can dig those things out. We can destroy them," he told The Jerusalem Post in an interview. Maybe??
The Germans who built Sadaams bunker correctly predicted we couldn't take it out with our Bunker Busters.
When we routed Sadaam and inspected the bunker that we bombed it was intact.
(Esser was a consultant for a German government-sponsored civil protection body and had his own company, Schutzraumtechnik Esser GmbH, which supplied equipment for Saddam's bunker.)
But Esser said "bunker busting" bombs would fail to penetrate the 1,800 square-meter bunker because they first have to get though the palace built directly above it.
"The presidential palace above gives natural protection so the bunker can only be cracked by ground troops or a tactical nuclear bomb," said Esser.
Bush has talked of military strikes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1599805/posts
"Let's wait longer and let them move them like Saddam did or bury them deeper so we'll look like fools."
Lets tell Iran they have a few days ( not weeks/years) to get their butt to the table and agree to disarm, or "pucker up", that should be the end of the conversation.
OK, but it would be more credible if he had actually found him.
Mideast Ping!
Every step has appeared in the public press. Of course, most readers don't retain what they read or put things together, so they will be surprised, but have a vague feeling they knew about this.
When Israel destroyed Iraq's nuke facility in 1981, those seeking nuke weapons learned this lesson:
1] diversify your nuke assets, and
2] build as much as possible underground
Should the US be successful in eliminating Iran's nuke timetable, it will only delay Iran getting nukes. The new lessons learned will be
1] diversify assets even further
2] go underground even deeper
3] build your facilites in proxy nations that the USA will not attack, and
4] just buy the nukes on the open market, which North Korea or Pakistan sill proably do at some point, especially after Pakistan is overthrown by Islamic radicals.
Delays are nice, but it only moves the timetable back and does nto stop their goal. As bin Laden showed us, if they have a goal, they keep at it until its a done deal.
That's exactly what Saddam thought.
"Gary Berntsen, the former senior CIA operative who led the search for Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan in late 2001..."
Ohh yeah? How'd that pan out Gary? Nevermind.
"We are probably going to have to destroy 30 facilities in 30 locations. Or at least 15," he said. "
30? 15? Wow I love it when former CIA guys get all insider like that, maybe its 20 locations with at least 10...ah whatever, we'll just circle around with our heads out the window looking for stuff that looks nuclear.
"Berntsen's comments came after former Pentagon adviser Richard Perle said earlier this month that Iran's prime nuclear facilities could be devastated in one night by a small fleet of US B-2 bombers."
and you know Pearle is not the type to toss around wildley unrealistic predictions in the build up to a war.
"It's better for the United States to do it. If you (Israel) do it, we'll have all sorts of problems in the Middle East."
Right, if we do it - no problems! Oil market anybody?
"They present a threat to peace in the Middle East."
A valid point in the unlikely event peace breaks out.
"A lot of people didn't think he would do Iraq."
OK, who besides Saddam didnt see Iraq coming?
Quagmire! did you say quagmire? Everything is a quagmire according to the NYT. And when it's not a quagmire, things are "rocking".
I would like to make a bold proposal....
not only do we bomb Irans nuke facilities, we take out their entire oil industry as well...oil rigs, onloading port facilities, refineries..everything...yes oil will go to $150 per barrel, but that would be less than the quadrupeling of prices etween 1973 and 1974...yes, it would likely cause a recession...but the negative impacts would last at most for 3 years. By 1976, the economy had begun to recover from the 1973 oil shock..unemployment and inflation had both fallen from their 1975 highs...the stock market which fell 45% in 1973-74 rose by over 50% between 1975 and 76.
It would cause us pain for a few years, but an Iranian nuke would cause us pain for eternity. We can live without Iranian oil, but Iran cannot.
very good point
One bomb is all it takes. And not even in Iran.
Run a nuclear weapons test on an atoll somewhere and announce that you are just checking the shelf life.
Iran will announce the next day they are stopping their program.
And he was right. We are too scared to do the killing that needs to be done. Blast a mosk full of "insurgents?" Heck no! Our guys are fighting with their arms tied behind their backs. Al Sadr is alive. WHY??
True Bush has talked about it, but not nearly the way he did about Iraq. Maybe its a new strategy, because the old one didn't work to well. He could be planning on just ordering the strike, and telling the world the next day. Its not like his public approval could get worse, plus he might earn back some of his base he lost with the port deal. Especially if after a bunker buster hits some sites a cloud of U235 comes out!
It is indeed necessary. However, Bush should not act without getting authorization from Congress. Bush needs to put the onus on the wimpy idiots in Congress. The left would like nothing more than to have Bush bomb Iran. They would then try and impeach him as a warmonger, etc. We Freepers are well informed and know the danger of Iran. However, many Americans could easily be swayed that Bush acted "alone" without consulting with Congress. I wish Bush would call Congress into session and ask for authorization to strike Iran. If Congress balks then Bush should wash his hands of action. I know it is dangerous, but it is more dangerous to have the rabid press and DemoRats relentlessly destroy him over this and win back Congress and maybe more. Let the Congress be forced to face reality instead of acting like a bunch is little crying children. I am sick and tired nonstop attacks by the leftist MSM and traitorous democrats.
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