Skip to comments.IBM Sends Open Source Architecture Tools to Russia
Posted on 02/03/2006 1:39:00 PM PST by Golden Eagle
IBM today announced free software and educational resources to help developers in Russia build and deploy innovative applications based on open standards and open source.
Tapping into the booming software development market in Russia, IBM is giving software developers, architects and students free access to software and hundreds of new tools and technical and educational resources that will enable them to more easily build open standards-based applications.
With a few clicks of a mouse, developers can download free versions of IBM middleware, IBM WebSphere Application Server Community Edition and IBM DB2 Universal Database Express-C, as well as access trial code, tutorials, technical forums, emerging technologies and blogs where IBM technical experts share their tips and expertise.
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That's not the only thing that you get in trouble for selling instead of giving it away........
Let their hackers have even more access to help them rip us off.
Maybe someone from the "open source ping list" can explain how this helps America and Americans? This IS your mechanism working as good as you could possibly hope, correct?
You misunderstand. It's not IBM's job to help America and Americans. IBM's job is to help IBM. I suspect this move will help IBM in many ways. They'll get all kinds of training and consulting work from this.
Perhaps the more pertinent question is: How does this harm America and Americans? G.E., can you tell us?
Excellent point. From today as well:
Hacker groups in Russia were trying to sell exploit code for the recent Windows Meta File flaw before it was even discovered by security software companies.
Would it make a lickin' difference? Absolutely not--that is, except in your eyes.
Would there be any direct harm to the American economy? Probably not--and if there's any harm, lay it down on the table right here.
Dear Golden Eagle,
I don't recall asking to be on any ping list maintained by you.
Could you remove me from whatever list you're using?
Especially since most of their employees are outside the U.S. these days, right?
How does this harm America and Americans?
By lowering the value of software, which is currently a very important industry in the U.S. Why should the Russians buy anything from anyone else here, when IBM is buttering their bread for free?
It's n3wbie's "open source" ping list, which I downloaded for free. Isn't that how "open source" works, you give it away to others to use, for free and whatever purpose they choose? If you're really opposed to that philosophy, maybe you should ask him to remove you from the open source list.
If you read his post, it sounds like he got a hold of it and suckered us in--it's posted at N3WBI3's page.
Whether they are or are not, why is it any of my concern? Or, more to the point, why should it be the concern of America as a whole? Does IBM have the right to hire whomever it chooses?
By lowering the value of software, which is currently a very important industry in the U.S.
Lowering the value of whose software? Their own? You'd like someone (The US Govt?) to stop them from affecting the value of their own products? Or maybe you'd like to stop them from lowering the value of the free products they're sending to Russia?
Why should the Russians buy anything from anyone else here, when IBM is buttering their bread for free?
Again, why should I care? What do you propose I, others, the US Govt do about it?
G.E. -- Is there any real harm, damage or threat that you can point to? All I see from your posts so far is vague, theoretical, future, possible stuff that might be bad for someone, somewhere.
Obviously, it would. Are you recommeding people give their houses away, or would they do better by selling them? Or are you seriously claiming there is no difference between the two? Can I have your house then, or whatever you might actually own?
Dear Golden Eagle,
"It's n3wbie's 'open source' ping list, which I downloaded for free."
Are there ping lists that folks charge for??
If so, I'm interested in renting out my Classical Music Ping List!! I'll consider any and all offers!!
No, but seriously. I think that's a very nice way to do it. And open list. Seems like a nice idea. I don't follow these threads quite as religiously as some, so I didn't realize that, but I think that sounds really good.
However, I would appreciate it that when you use the list, you leave me off.
What's wrong, don't like it when you actually see "open source" in action?
Some people don't care, like Bill Clinton, who removed almost all export controls on software by executive order his last day in office. I personally would like to see our policy changed back, to where firms like IBM are once again restricted by law from providing technology to potential adversaries, and fined heavily when they do it.
Sounds like you have first hand experience transferring tech to Russia, either that or it's something you support. Did you think it was wrong of the U.S. to fine IBM previously for their transfers to Russia during the 90's?
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