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Human Footprints older than thought
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-11/uoc--a4h112805.php ^

Posted on 12/01/2005 11:01:48 AM PST by Tzimisce

Berkeley -- Alleged footprints of early Americans found in volcanic rock in Mexico are either extremely old - more than 1 million years older than other evidence of human presence in the Western Hemisphere - or not footprints at all, according to a new analysis published this week in Nature.

The study was conducted by geologists at the Berkeley Geochronology Center and the University of California, Berkeley, as part of an investigative team of geologists and anthropologists from the United States and Mexico.

Earlier this year, researchers in England touted these "footprints" as definitive proof that humans were in the Americas much earlier than 11,000 years ago, which is the accepted date for the arrival of humans across a northern land-bridge from Asia.

These scientists, led by geologist Silvia Gonzalez of Liverpool's John Moores University, dated the volcanic rock at 40,000 years old. They hypothesized that early hunters walked across ash freshly deposited near a lake by volcanoes that are still active in the area around Puebla, Mexico. The so-called footprints, subsequently covered by more ash and inundated by lake waters, eventually turned to rock.

But Paul Renne, director of the Berkeley Geochronology Center and an adjunct professor of earth and planetary science at UC Berkeley, and his colleagues in Mexico and at Texas A&M University report in the Dec. 1 issue of Nature a new age for the rock: about 1.3 million years.

"You're really only left with two possibilities," Renne said. "One is that they are really old hominids - shockingly old - or they're not footprints."

(Excerpt) Read more at eurekalert.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs
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During the early part of the 1900's scientists reasoned that if humans were related to monkies, then the evidence of human evolution would be found were monkies are found: namely Africa. This theory is largely unchallenged.

But the fossil record shows that Africa isn't the only place where primates evolved and lived. It is very possible that human life began in the United States.

But don't mention this to the scientific community or leftists. They're far to open minded, accepting, tolerant and willing to look at every point of view to allow their minds to become polluted with such filth as to even entertain this notion.

1 posted on 12/01/2005 11:01:48 AM PST by Tzimisce
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The curse of Leakey?


2 posted on 12/01/2005 11:03:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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3 posted on 12/01/2005 11:06:11 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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Spitting Coffee!! I was thinking Chaka from Land of the Lost, but I'm not posting it after seeing that. LOL!


4 posted on 12/01/2005 11:07:34 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is the Religion of Peace, they should FIRE their PR guy!)
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To: Puppage

What garbage dump did this evolve from?? Please nuke the site before more evolve.


5 posted on 12/01/2005 11:08:24 AM PST by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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What garbage dump did this evolve from?? Please nuke the site before more evolve.


6 posted on 12/01/2005 11:09:12 AM PST by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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You mean we are not neccessairly all descended from a lady in Africa named Helen (or whatever they call her) and are thus called by the UN to all get together and sing kumbaya?


7 posted on 12/01/2005 11:10:13 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: handy old one

Do they have N.A.G.P.R.A. in Mexico?


8 posted on 12/01/2005 11:12:00 AM PST by Donpeyote
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Kind of funny-- "Either they are footprints or they aren't..."


9 posted on 12/01/2005 11:12:52 AM PST by jcb8199
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Please file under mid-pacific valley!!


10 posted on 12/01/2005 11:16:25 AM PST by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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Your example of the missing link for reverse evolution scares the hell out of me. I may never be the same and am to sceered to sleep now.


mc :>)
11 posted on 12/01/2005 11:48:08 AM PST by mcshot (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON. Yup! shouting it out!)
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issue of Nature a new age for the rock: about 1.3 million years.

Causes real problems with "Out of Africa". "Out of Mexico" is still going on.

12 posted on 12/01/2005 12:05:41 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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descended from a lady in Africa named Helen

Ummm... I think that was Lucy. However. post 3 does picture a neanderthal-like creature named Helen....

13 posted on 12/01/2005 12:21:59 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluaralistic statement.)
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During the early part of the 1900's scientists reasoned that if humans were related to monkies, then the evidence of human evolution would be found were monkies are found: namely Africa. This theory is largely unchallenged.

But the fossil record shows that Africa isn't the only place where primates evolved and lived. It is very possible that human life began in the United States.

Well I think the mitochondrial DNA shows that humans left Africa about 1 million years ago. I think, basically, there are 5 genome types of humans, 4 of which are found only in Africa. All other humans, according to this theory, are descended from a small band of humans who left Africa for the middle east and have spread to the far parts of the earth. The commmon ur-grandmother of all of us (non-Africans) is the so-called Lucy.

14 posted on 12/01/2005 12:27:39 PM PST by Jack Black
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"Alleged footprints of early Americans found in volcanic rock in Mexico..."

Okay. All who believe humans or any other creature walked on lava that was soft enough for footprints to be formed, let's see a show of posters!

15 posted on 12/01/2005 12:29:54 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: mcshot; Puppage

My Gosh!

I clicked on that "[to 3]" thingy and that face popped up, said "BOO!", and my heart stopped for a second!

That's not good!


16 posted on 12/01/2005 12:33:45 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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17 posted on 04/25/2006 12:12:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Just updating the GGG information, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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18 posted on 02/12/2007 10:15:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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This is absolutely hilarious! I was cracking up at my computer.

It reminds me of those young earth guys that said some dating techniques would date freshly cooled lava at thousands or millions of years old.

They may have been more correct in their criticisms than many would care to admit.

The more we know, the more we know we don't know.


19 posted on 02/12/2007 10:21:30 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: Jack Black


Source?


20 posted on 02/12/2007 10:25:23 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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