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Prelim Analysis - Mutiny Story is Set Up - call for a Post 47
Various - Daily News, Salon, ^ | 10/17/04 | Self

Posted on 10/17/2004 6:56:37 AM PDT by Phsstpok

The earlier thread about the October Surprise "Mutiny" hit piece on this mornings Today show prompted me to do some Googling to try to see if there were any connections of note.  I felt that even the little evidence I found warranted a quick heads up and (forgive me) a separate thread as a call to action.  I have no particular standing to do this, but this concerned me enough to fire off a flare.

It looks like the extreme left is orchestrating an October Surprise propaganda campaign against the war in Iraq and President Bush by staging a "mutiny" of reserve troops (appears to be 5 of 'em, when you get down to it) and playing it the way they played Abu Gharib. 

First, the basic story.  Reports surfaced on Friday, the 15th, that troops in Iraq had refused a "suicide mission" and were under arrest and held in close guard.  A small handful of "frantic" family members began reporting "unfair practices" and "unsafe conditions," desperately calling on (the usual suspects) politicians to save their loved ones from cruel fate.

Some excerpts:

Daily News, October 17, 2004:

'All of us refused to go'

Calls, E-mails explain troops' alleged mutiny

The military has begun punishing some of the 19 Army reservists who balked at what they called a "suicide mission" and a "death sentence" in Iraq last week.

Some members of the South Carolina-based 343rd Quartermaster Company refused to transport fuel between the Iraqi cities of Tallil and Taji Wednesday morning, saying they had no protection for the dangerous trip.

now here's the kicker from the Daily News piece:

Citizen Soldier, a New York-based, nonprofit military rights group, has offered ... its help.

Citizen Soldier is not a "military rights group."  It is a virulently anti-American and anti-Military extreme left front group.  Their motto on their web site is: "Prepared to Challenge U.S. Militarism in the New Millenium."

Citizen Soldier also has close ties to John Kerry, as it's director Tod Ensign, was one of the organizers of Kerry's discredited Winter Soldier propaganda event in 1969, along with Jeremy Rifkin.  This connection is the one that set off my alarm bells.

I couldn't figure the Mississippi angle till I found this in The Clarion-Ledger of Hattiesberg, Mississippi:

Platoon with Mississippi soldiers defies orders 17 soldiers placed under arrest in Iraq

A 17-member Army Reserve platoon with troops from Jackson and around the Southeast deployed to Iraq is under arrest for refusing a "suicide mission" to deliver fuel, the troops' relatives said Thursday. The soldiers refused an order on Wednesday to go to Taji, Iraq - north of Baghdad - because their vehicles were considered "deadlined" or extremely unsafe, said Patricia McCook of Jackson, wife of Sgt. Larry O. McCook.

and again, buried in the piece, is the clue to the source and spin:

U.S. Rep. Bennie Thompson said he plans to submit a congressional inquiry today on behalf of the Mississippi soldiers to launch an investigation into whether they are being treated improperly.

Bennie Thompson is one of the more radical members of the Black Caucus.  He is a leader in the "fair play for Fidel Castro" movement in Congress.  He is often the designated "hit man" in attacking minority members of the Bush Administration, particularly Dr. Condoleezza Rice.  He was a rabid Deaniac, but shifted his loyalty to Kerry when Dean fell on his own scream.

The Salon hit piece ties this squarely to the Washington/DNC/Carville slime machine:

Revolt in the ranks in Iraq

The inside story of the Army platoon that refused to carry out a "death sentence" mission.

is by Mary Jocoby, Salon's Washington Correspondent.  Jacoby is one of Salon's "reliable" writers who can always be counted on to spew hate at George Bush, in particular, and Republicans in general.  She rates Seymour Hersh as a "crack investigative reporter" and has authored anti-Bush hit pieces such as  "The Dunce," "George W. Bush's Missing Year" and "Swaggering toward Election Day."

What is truly amazing about these pieces on the "mutiny" is that they appear to have been ready to go before the incident took place.  These folks had their stories straight and remarkably consistent in record time, even before the news had reached the regular news cycle on CNN, who jumped on this in record time. 

Folks, this is a set up.  But it's a set up that, like many of the Kerry camps dirty tricks, they've had to fire off prematurely to try to distract the news media from a Kerry gaffe.  Pulling the trigger on this was timed to try and keep the disastrous Mary Cheney attack off of the Sunday morning talk shows.  These soldiers are pawns who were told that they would be used to unseat a sitting President (with undoubted hints of vast rewards from a Kerry administration) but they are being sacrificed, just like pushing a pawn, to protect the dims' king.


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I am calling for a full Post 47 treatment of this story.  Who are these folks (both the mutineers and the stateside mouthpieces)?  What are their connections to the Democrats in general and to the extreme left and the Kerry campaign in particular?  Who are the folks pushing this and, very importantly, are they working from a recognizable script?  Do they use common phrases or references that are just a bit too coincidental.

Those with contacts at sites like Powerline or in the free press, feed anything good on this to the folks who can trumpet it properly.  But to be effective, if there is anything here, it needs to be done quickly.  I'm calling on those who are here, this brain trust, to find out if this is a set up and, if so, scream it from the roof tops.  If this is an organized plot to incite a mutiny in time of war, that folks, is treason.

1 posted on 10/17/2004 6:56:37 AM PDT by Phsstpok
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To: Phsstpok

My feeling is these people have been subjected to the Kerry Rhetoric of calling the war a mistake and have deemed it appropriate that John Kerry if he were president would support such action by the military .... I mean John Kerry did say the war is a mistake... How can we be asking these men to die for a mistake...

Report it fair and balanced.


2 posted on 10/17/2004 7:01:27 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Masterdebaters Lesbian thoughts dash Presidential hopes.)
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To: Phsstpok
Funny YOU should mention....check out -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1247474/posts?page=30#30
3 posted on 10/17/2004 7:03:08 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Phsstpok

Great find. What is a Post 47?


4 posted on 10/17/2004 7:03:13 AM PDT by cajungirl (Jammies Up!!)
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To: cajungirl
Jammies Up!

That's great! :-)
5 posted on 10/17/2004 7:04:53 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Phsstpok

Sunday might be a poor time for a call to action, especially in the morning. I f you don't get the results here you anticipate repost later.

From what I see of your evidence, it looks very circumstantial. If you have something concrete anyone could run with it would be a great help.


6 posted on 10/17/2004 7:04:56 AM PDT by Arkie2
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To: Phsstpok

Sometimes it seems that our 'shire' is in need of a scouring.


7 posted on 10/17/2004 7:05:18 AM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: hiredhand

Thanks!

If this group, the winter soldier dudes, can be connected to this faux mutiny, and MSM picks it up, Kerry is so toasted.


8 posted on 10/17/2004 7:08:17 AM PDT by cajungirl (Jammies Up!!)
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To: cajungirl
Great find. What is a Post 47?

That would be a reference to Buchead's post that began "Memogate" with Dan Rather's forged documents.

9 posted on 10/17/2004 7:08:28 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Phsstpok

The democrats are revolting


10 posted on 10/17/2004 7:08:58 AM PDT by NorseWood
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To: cajungirl
If this group, the winter soldier dudes, can be connected to this faux mutiny, and MSM picks it up, Kerry is so toasted.

Yep...I agree. If you see anything more about this, please ping me. My "to-do" list just caught up with me, and I probably won't be back until this evening. Thanks! :-)
11 posted on 10/17/2004 7:09:56 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Arkie2; Howlin; Miss Marple; wardaddy; cyncooper

doesn't look circumstantial to me,,the clue, the best one is Citizen Soldier. Paydirt there!

If the military puts these guys under pressure, a court martial might be nice, they will talk.

Ping above to spread the word,,this is big.


12 posted on 10/17/2004 7:11:04 AM PDT by cajungirl (Jammies Up!!)
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To: Phsstpok

I thought the same thing when I heard this. It stinks out loud of set-up. Good job on the early research.

If this is shown to be what we think it is, I want to see REAL treason trials with REAL consequences. This is a step way over the line


13 posted on 10/17/2004 7:11:23 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck
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To: Phsstpok

I've suspected that this was a set-up from the start. I think the Army is downplaying it so as not to give ammunition to the people who set it up, but I sure hope some serious investigation is being done, mostly regarding the ties of these reservists to people like Bennie Thompson.


14 posted on 10/17/2004 7:11:27 AM PDT by livius
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To: cajungirl
Great find. What is a Post 47?

I'm sure Post #47 refers to the infamous reply by Buckhead to Howlin here. This was the start of the See BS dan blather memogate being exposed as forged documents.

See Post #47 here.

15 posted on 10/17/2004 7:11:29 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Out of the mouths of democRATs come nothing but stupid words.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Citizen Soldier --> Winter Soldier--> JFK --> TREASON!!


16 posted on 10/17/2004 7:13:43 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck
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To: Phsstpok

BTTT


17 posted on 10/17/2004 7:15:27 AM PDT by Gritty ("Read Kerry's lips: No new crutches. Now that’s a campaign promise! - Mark Steyn)
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To: Arkie2
From what I see of your evidence, it looks very circumstantial. If you have something concrete anyone could run with it would be a great help.

I agree that I haven't found anything concrete. That's why I've posted and asked for help. I'm going to continue to look, but I'm assuming that there will be others with different (and better?) resources than I might have.

I'm not in Buckhead's league, but his original post 47 was a simple declarative that the CBS memos looked like they had the wrong fonts for an early 70s typewriter. That unleashed some truly amazing resources. I was hoping to tap into that same well.

18 posted on 10/17/2004 7:16:08 AM PDT by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Paine in the Neck

didn't Kerry have one of those guys from winter soldier on his staff for a while,,was it Fournier? I am hitting a memory block but people were riled about it.

The swift boat guys might be interested in this along with little green footballs.

This is going to be a pajamaratti morniing, I can tell.


19 posted on 10/17/2004 7:16:32 AM PDT by cajungirl (Jammies Up!!)
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To: cajungirl; Phsstpok

Anyone have any info on any of the troops and/or parents involved? Later today I'll try some googling; others might have better resources.


20 posted on 10/17/2004 7:17:43 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers. :: Kerry promises, but Bush delivers!)
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