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Ex-Security Adviser Rips Bush Diplomacy
AP via Yahoooo ^ | 10/16/04 | AP

Posted on 10/16/2004 2:44:09 PM PDT by I_saw_the_light

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To: speedy

It is official: Brent SoftCrow has dementia. Maybe he will leave a long message in John Kerry's cellular phone while he has flashbacks of lucidity. I am sure that SoftCrow's message would be seared in Gigolo's memory, too.


21 posted on 10/16/2004 2:58:42 PM PDT by Jose Roberto
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To: ambrose

At leat Baker is quiet-- Scowcroft never loses an opportunity to bash Bush. I'm guessing that Scowcroft isn't on the A-list for Bush Sr. dinner parties anymore. Which I think is GOOD.


22 posted on 10/16/2004 2:59:38 PM PDT by walden
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To: Hildy
I didn't vote for the relection of the elder Bush

Then you...er, um.....?

23 posted on 10/16/2004 3:02:03 PM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: I_saw_the_light
What is Scowcroft saying here? Essentially, it boils down to this: The President of the United States is a puppet to the Jews. This is the most odious, vile, repugnant statement by an ex-official of this government that I've heard in quite some time. And recently there's been plenty of competition.
24 posted on 10/16/2004 3:02:59 PM PDT by mojito
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To: I_saw_the_light

Bush Senior needs to rip this creep a new one and make it hurt bad.


25 posted on 10/16/2004 3:05:03 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito
My sense is that Gen. Scowcroft has a personal axe to grind with Ariel Sharon that dates from the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. If you'll recall that invasion began a string of events that lead to Reagan sending in the Marines. Those were some tough times in DC after the downing of some Navy pilots (remember the Jesse Jackson mission?), the Sabra & Shatilla "massacre" (by Lebanese militiamen, but blamed on Israel) & the Marine Barracks bombing.

Of course, this bleating by Gen. Scowcroft will only serve to comfort the Kerry campaign and give them some free ammo for a news cycle, or two. I'm sure that Ariel Sharon could give a hoot what Scowcroft thinks today.

26 posted on 10/16/2004 3:07:04 PM PDT by Tallguy (If the Kerry campaign implodes any further, they'll reach the point of "singularity" by election day)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone

Ya' know, it's just s-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o easy for a bunch o' wanna beees, could never beees, couldn't get their way beeeees, to pound on the Prez, especially at election time! If they were so f'n smart and intuitive, and diplomatic, why in the hello, didn't they run for Prez themselves???

Put the f up, or shut the f up!

I'm gettin' sick of these washed up has beens ganging up on GW.

Dang, I wished I knew how to post images and .gifs on this board, I know just the one that perfectly describes my sentiment at this very moment.

Seriously, Skowcroft wasn't even a good General. People used to salute him with the "flyin' bird"

:O)

P


27 posted on 10/16/2004 3:07:30 PM PDT by papasmurf (G'me 4 more years of floppy ears!!!)
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To: ErnBatavia

I voted for Perot. Sue me.


28 posted on 10/16/2004 3:12:38 PM PDT by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: papasmurf
People used to salute him with the "flyin' bird"

I met/guarded this arse in Prague in 1990 when the first President Bush was meeting with Vaslav Havel. I don't remember anyone taking the trouble to even give him the bird - it wasn't worth it.

29 posted on 10/16/2004 3:14:15 PM PDT by kddid (Hope springs eternal.)
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To: Jose Roberto

Concur. But Scowcroft does have enough brain cells left
to understand that the only way he ever sees his name
in the papers anymore is when he attacks the President.
This will at least get him invited to the next Al Hunt/Judy
Woodruff soiree.


30 posted on 10/16/2004 3:15:06 PM PDT by speedy
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To: flashbunny

You're absolutely right. It's simple now to look back and say that it was Perot's fault. That's just not true. Clinton was still an unknown quantity that didn't sound as bad as he turned out to be. I worked in a Perot campaign office and we called Republicans and asked them who they would vote for if Perot wasn't in the race. 99% said Clinton. These were people, like myself and my family, who just weren't going to vote for Bush again. Like everything, you have to look at it throught the eyes of the times...1992. Of course if we had the power of foresight, we would have voted for Bush. But that's just the way it was.


31 posted on 10/16/2004 3:16:04 PM PDT by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: I_saw_the_light
Scowcroft said the Bush administration's "unilateralist" position was partly responsible for the post-Sept. 11, 2001, decline of the trans-Atlantic relationship.

WHAT Relationship decline? See where Great Britain, Poland, Italy etc have troops? What is it about these old establishment types that they define Nato as France and Germany?

But a sad pathetic loser Scowcroft has become. Just cannot admit that he blew it in 1991 calling for end to the 1st Gulf War with the job half done. Bush is fixing HIS and Bush 1's error and all this loser can do is carp and whine for Media face time.
32 posted on 10/16/2004 3:16:58 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
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To: Condor51

Use it as much as you want.


33 posted on 10/16/2004 3:18:43 PM PDT by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Hildy

Reagan won over 40% of the Jewish vote in 1984. Bush 41---30% in 1988... been down hard ever since due to Bush41.


34 posted on 10/16/2004 3:18:52 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: speedy
The last gasps of the dying multilateralist UN-loving Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party


Boy I was just thinking the same thing. Funny how all these old Republican Establishment types like Buchanan and Scowcroft have this almost irrational hate for Israel.
35 posted on 10/16/2004 3:20:58 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
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To: mojito
This guy might as well wear a button that says "Antisemitic Creep


Yep. Funny how so many of the old line "Paleo-conservatives" like Buchannan and Scowcroft are really nothing more then Anti-Jewish bigots.
36 posted on 10/16/2004 3:22:58 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
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To: dennisw

Thank you :-)


37 posted on 10/16/2004 3:23:47 PM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: I_saw_the_light

He was the first to offer that getting terrorism to a 'nuisance' level was ok. . .maybe he did not like all the 'Kerry-bashing'.


38 posted on 10/16/2004 3:25:46 PM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: ambrose

This is true.


39 posted on 10/16/2004 3:27:14 PM PDT by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: I_saw_the_light
Why do these traitors keep showing up at the most un-opportune times? What the hell is going on? Are we being bought off progressively? Or is the explanation a simple one.

I have a theory about this.

It could be that GW is just about fed up with these guys who are entrenched in the State Dept. and the CIA. I read an article last week that was pretty much calling attention to this. (should have bookmarked it but thought we were done with the Benedict Arnolds)It seems there are a heck of a lot of people who are senior officials in the State Dept and the CIA that do not get replaced as administrations change and Bush is about sick of their politics. Especially seeing as he has paid the price for their Intel which was prior to the invasion of Iraq inadequate to say the least. (you will also notice he doesn’t pass the buck but rather takes responsibility himself) Bush strikes me as the kind of man as if he sticks his neck out for facts that you have furnished him and they end up being less than factual he is not going to give you a pass. He’s going to chew your butt. Apparently, the lifers in the CIA and the State Dept. think they are above this. The Intel on WMD’s was to say the least not quite accurate. I believe he is cutting some of these people off at the knees for their apparent screw-ups and they are resenting this. Mostly because I suppose they do not have to answer to anybody and have the attitude of "How Dare You Question My Abilities!"

I think this explains a great deal. Richard Clarke comes to mind right off the bat. Just a thought though. I could be wrong.......It is still just a theory.

40 posted on 10/16/2004 3:29:53 PM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (Carnivores for Conservatives!)
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