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The Gallop poll has more dems
Me | 10/11/2004 | Me

Posted on 10/11/2004 1:34:49 PM PDT by Bungarian

The results are cooked or more dems were polled. Look at Gallop's own poll concerning the debate and who won.

Sen. John Kerry and President George W. Bush battled each other to a virtual tie in Friday night's presidential debate, according to a random sample of 515 registered voters who watched the event. Forty-seven percent of viewers said Kerry did the better job; 45% picked Bush.

47 Kerry and 45 Bush

Now look at the results from the latest poll showing Kerry up on the same question.

30. Regardless of which candidate you happen to support, who do you think did the better job in last Friday’s debate: John Kerry or George W. Bush?

Kerry Bush Neither Both equally No opinion 2nd Presidential Debate 2004 Oct 9-10 45 30 1 10 14 1st Presidential Debate 2004 Oct 1-3 57 25 1 5 12 Based on 484 national adults in Form A.

Kerry 45 Bush 30

2 points difference in the first poll and 15 points in the latest poll.

This shows that the latest poll either has more dems or they cooked the numbers.


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1 posted on 10/11/2004 1:34:49 PM PDT by Bungarian
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To: Bungarian

It's hard to believe would oversample Dems that much.

More likely is that these people watched the media spin the 2d debate into a Kerry victory. People believe what they are told.


2 posted on 10/11/2004 1:36:09 PM PDT by tomahawk
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To: Bungarian

Even the ABC "instapoll" (instapolls BTW are totally worthless) showed Kerry only winning the debate by 3%.


3 posted on 10/11/2004 1:36:48 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: Bungarian

The horserace numbers are still tied, 48-48 registered, 49-48 Kerry ahead by one.


4 posted on 10/11/2004 1:37:54 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Bungarian

No problem. Only one poll matters, November 2, 2004.


5 posted on 10/11/2004 1:38:36 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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To: KellyAdmirer
The horserace numbers are still tied, 48-48 registered, 49-48 Kerry ahead by one.

Yes but those numbers seem at least to me as having a larger number of dems sampled.
6 posted on 10/11/2004 1:39:10 PM PDT by Bungarian
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To: Bungarian
One thing to remember is that two weeks ago Gallup came under extreme attack from the left, accusing Gallup of bringing his "Fundamentalist Christian Bias" into his polling. It may be a shift in his weighting to take the heat off, that is reflected in his latest two polls.

LLS
7 posted on 10/11/2004 1:41:59 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (kerry... a girlie-man who built his life on a bedrock of lies, and derives his strength from EVIL!)
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To: Bungarian

I myself am getting sick of the polls, and I consider myself a poll junkie :) But I do think you have a point, AND I noticed when looking at RealClearPolitics.com that this same CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll has NEVER been conducted just on 2 days. It appears the general approach prior was to poll Friday-Sunday. So that doesn't make sense to me, makes me question consistency of result.


8 posted on 10/11/2004 1:43:46 PM PDT by bcatwilly (West Virginia is BUSH-Cheney Country!)
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To: Bungarian

What were the poll numbers in Australia before Howard's victory?

It seems like Republican numbers are usually understated in the polls before national elections (2000 Gore vs. Bush being an exception).


9 posted on 10/11/2004 1:45:07 PM PDT by texasmountainman (proud father of a U.S. Marine)
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To: Bungarian

This poll is psyops in full throttle.


10 posted on 10/11/2004 1:46:44 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Bungarian

Think your view of the poll representing more than 39% RATS or less than 35% Republican is an accurate!
The second poll is mostly of people that did not see the debate. How could Kerry receive all these votes!
Where is the Newsweak Poll this week???? Maybe they didn't like the results?


11 posted on 10/11/2004 1:47:16 PM PDT by ConservativeGreek
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To: bcatwilly

November 2nd. Bush 52% F'n 47% Assorted nuts 1%.


12 posted on 10/11/2004 1:47:56 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Bungarian

Exactly what I figured.


13 posted on 10/11/2004 1:47:56 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: texasmountainman

Howard was considered either tied or slightly behind going into the vote in Australia. How did it turn out?


14 posted on 10/11/2004 1:49:02 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Patrick1

No, Howard was ahead in the polls the last 2 weeks.


15 posted on 10/11/2004 1:51:30 PM PDT by tomahawk
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To: Right_in_Virginia

I am concerned that the primary reaction here to the Gallup and Zogby polls has been to make excuses and accusations of bias -- we need to be organzing and redoubling our efforts to reelect our President in the event that these polls are right.


16 posted on 10/11/2004 1:52:02 PM PDT by dubyain04jebin08and12
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To: Bungarian

I noticed the same thing. USA Today cooked the numbers.


17 posted on 10/11/2004 1:52:46 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: tomahawk

You sure? I thought he was down, bashed by the MSM as headed for doom because of GW.


18 posted on 10/11/2004 1:53:10 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Bungarian

Your Right,these gallop polls always seem to favor the democrats. sometimes i think these polls are only taken in the Liberal Capital of the World: MASSACHUSETTS!!!


19 posted on 10/11/2004 1:54:27 PM PDT by Proud Republican 99
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To: Bungarian

However accurate these polls are, Bush has work to do. At the next debate, he absolutely must score on these three issues: Kerry's liberal voting record; his absences from votes and committee meetings; the lie in Kerry's tax pledge, as noted in other discussions in this forum.


20 posted on 10/11/2004 1:57:42 PM PDT by djpg
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