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Let the West Make Peace With Islam First
Arab News ^ | 3-1-04 | Dr. Mariam Al-Oraifi

Posted on 03/01/2004 4:41:59 PM PST by SJackson

Every time there is some kind of policy proposal or strategic vision for the Middle East region, it becomes a controversial issue here. The reason is that people in the Middle East see things differently from what the West envisions for them and believe that Western governments do not fully understand their political culture. This is usually followed by accusations of conspiracies and allegations of neoimperialism to subdue the region to serve the West’s economic interests and impose its political hegemony.

Recently, the United States proposed a Greater Middle East Initiative in reaction to the last 2002 UN Arab Human Development Report, which sets forth the roots of Arab underdevelopment: A deficit of freedom, lack of women’s empowerment and educational backwardness. Observers in the area perceive this new US initiative as resembling the Helsinki accord, signed in 1975 by 35 nations including the US, Soviet Union and almost all European countries. Helsinki was designed to recognize disputed post-World War II borders and establish a mechanism for settling other disagreements to improve security and promote cooperation. The Western countries then believed that by protecting human rights and encouraging freedom, they would instigate the demise of Communism in the East.

The Bush administration wants to introduce the new initiative to minimize the appeal of Islamic fundamentalism, which is spreading. The United States has made it clear it does not want to “go it alone” but would like the collaboration of EU countries. It indicated it would try to lobby for support during the NATO and G-8 summits in June. Yet the Europeans view the initiative with skepticism. They insist that it should not be dictated to them but rather presented, in agreement with the parties concerned, within the framework of a security partnership in support of reform and democracy. They also believe that political change and reform cannot progress in the Middle East without settling the Arab-Israeli conflict.

The initiative produced conflicting reactions in the Greater Middle East. Some believe that this is a continuation of what the Americans started in Iraq but through peaceful means. Others argue that it is more like a US-sponsored neocolonialism and that Washington is trying to involve Europe only to guarantee UN and global support.

People in the region acknowledge that other countries have surpassed them in development; they lag behind in economic productivity and have not been able to move ahead with political reform. However, they insist that the blame is not solely theirs but should also be placed on US policies in the Middle East over the past decades.

Throughout the second half of the 20th century, numerous wars were fought in the Middle East, ignited directly or indirectly either by West European states or the United States. The 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973 wars were related to the Arab-Israeli conflict which cost human lives, drained resources, and left the region with economic difficulties, crushing deficits and arrested development. The countries involved directly in these wars were Egypt, Syria, and Jordan. But the Gulf countries took part indirectly by funding military programs or imposing the oil embargo. Then, there was the 1975-1989 Lebanese civil war, the US-sponsored Mujahedeen fighting against the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the 1978 Iranian uprising against the Shah’s regime, the 1980-1988 Iraqi-Iranian war, the first Gulf War and, last but not least, the second Gulf War and the US occupation of Iraq. This was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

Apart from these major wars, there are numerous other conflicts such as the Algeria-Morocco dispute over the Sahara desert, the Pakistani-Indian conflict over Kashmir, the Algerian civil war, the north-south war in Sudan, the Yemen war, border disputes between several Gulf states, the Eritrea-Ethiopian war, the Somalia war. All this had its impact on the greater Middle East as a whole.

Not only did it traumatize families with the loss of lives of loved ones, it also devastated many others psychologically, their feelings of anger and hostility exacerbated by depression and humiliation.

Muslims in times of crisis tend to turn to God and His Holy Book looking for salvation. This is probably a reason for the surge in conservatism in most of the countries in the Greater Middle East area including secular Turkey. The greater the interference or pressures from the West on these countries — whether peacefully by encouraging reform and democracy or militarily by invading them or economically by imposing sanctions and isolation — the more people turn to fundamentalism. This can eventually turn into militancy, as was the case in Iran during the Shah’s regime, leading to the Islamic revolution.

Ideally, defending freedom, encouraging political reform and ensuring human rights are all popular demands that should come from within. They are not strategic goals for countries from without. If the United States and the West seek security partnerships with the Greater Middle Eastern countries and propose economic cooperation in the sincere hope of achieving progress and prosperity there, shouldn’t the West make peace with Islam first?

— Dr. Mariam Al-Oraifi is a Saudi academic.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bush43; bushdoctrine; g8summit; middleeast
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To: Wombat101
You hit the nail on the head! Very well said!
41 posted on 03/01/2004 7:00:44 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Happy2BMe
I believe you've got it! That is the jist of everything. The Chinese have a hand in this for sure. Don't be misled, China is a worthy advisary. Most people don't understand the connection.
42 posted on 03/01/2004 7:37:11 PM PST by KingofQue
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To: SJackson
Let the West Make Peace With Islam First

Say what?
Why would a civilized country want to make peace with a herd of lunatics?

Assuming it were possible...

43 posted on 03/01/2004 7:38:22 PM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: SJackson
What is the Arab world's response to its own lack of individual freedom, its support for terrorism and lack of accountability for its own actions?



"Don't Blame Me - I Didn't Do It!"
44 posted on 03/01/2004 7:45:47 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Liberal politicians are like dirty diapers - both need to be changed often and for the same reason)
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To: SJackson
Dear Mr. Al-Oraifi

It's really quite simple. If you wish to live among civilized people and nations, behave in a civilized manner AND do not tolerate, support or rationalize those who refuse to do so. Then, we'll get along just dandy.
45 posted on 03/01/2004 7:47:45 PM PST by william clark
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To: SJackson
"People in the region acknowledge that other countries have surpassed them in development; they lag behind in economic productivity and have not been able to move ahead with political reform. However, they insist that the blame is not solely theirs but should also be placed on US policies in the Middle East over the past decades."

No, the blame is squarely on a culture that disalows half of it's population proper education or the opportunity to contribute meaningful work. There is nothing in Islam commanding that women be 2nd class citizens, that is strictly from backward tribalism.
46 posted on 03/01/2004 7:52:11 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: 2banana
Spoken like a true chickenhawk thousands of miles from the nearest war.
47 posted on 03/01/2004 7:53:01 PM PST by Trickyguy
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To: SJackson; mhking; Ragtime Cowgirl
Yeah, right.

Let's look at what this (liar) left out.

"Throughout the second half of the 20th century, numerous wars were fought in the Middle East, ignited directly or indirectly either by West European states or the United States.(WRONG! These were radical Islamic armies warring against Jewish settlers) The 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973 wars were related to the Arab-Israeli conflict which cost human lives, drained resources, and left the region with economic difficulties, crushing deficits and arrested development. (Because radical Islam lost each time to democratic forces )The countries involved directly in these wars were Egypt, Syria, and Jordan.(radical Islam) But the Gulf countries took part indirectly by funding military programs or imposing the oil embargo. (radical Islam)Then, there was the 1975-1989 Lebanese civil war(radical Islam-radical "Christian"), the US-sponsored Mujahedeen fighting against the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan(radical Islam-radical Communism - Gee, you'd have thought he would have noticed that the Communists weren't "friendly" Western democracies; and you notice he forgot that WE (the west) were defending his brother Islam nations), the 1978 Iranian uprising against the Shah’s regime(radical Islam-radical Islam), the 1980-1988 Iraqi-Iranian war(radical Islam-radical Islam), the first Gulf War(radical/dictatorial Islam, trying to conquer radical Islam) and, last but not least, the second Gulf War (radical/dictatorial Islam supporting terror weapons against democracies)and the US occupation of Iraq. This was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

Apart from these major wars, there are numerous other conflicts such as the Algeria-Morocco dispute over the Sahara desert(radical Islam-radical Islam), the Pakistani-Indian conflict over Kashmir(radical Islam-radical Hindu), the Algerian civil war(radical Islam-radical Islam), the north-south war in Sudan(radical Islam Communists-radical Islam semi-western supporters), the Yemen war(radical Islam-radical Islam), border disputes between several Gulf states(radical Islam-radical Islam), the Eritrea-Ethiopian war (radical Islam-radical Islam) , the Somalia war. (radical Islam poor thieves stealing from starving radical Islam poorer people)

Now, what's the common thread here?

What's the ONLY democracy in the entire region?

Who is he ONLY nation trying to defend this nations against the Communists and their "fellow radical Islamic dictators? And just WHY is all this precious oil money getting spent on rhino horns and harems and Mercedes rather than civil improvements?

48 posted on 03/01/2004 8:02:53 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: SJackson
Some typoes in that title:

Let the West Make Peace With Pieces Of Islam First

Better.

49 posted on 03/01/2004 8:24:14 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Wombat101; Ernest_at_the_Beach
EXCELLENT, Wombat...absolutely excellent.
50 posted on 03/01/2004 8:52:49 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Pray for America and Israel)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Thank you...
51 posted on 03/01/2004 9:05:10 PM PST by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection....)
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To: Brad's Gramma; Wombat101; SJackson
Thanks for the ping!

I was about to close down for the night.

Got a link to a good editorial that seems to fit this topic:

An evil hatred

52 posted on 03/01/2004 9:09:00 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Wombat101
You are very welcome.
53 posted on 03/01/2004 9:09:03 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Pray for America and Israel)
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To: Wombat101
Wombat, why don't you copy & paste your post over to that thread, too, the one that Ernest just linked to? It would be really appropriate there, too.
54 posted on 03/01/2004 9:11:13 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Pray for America and Israel)
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To: 1bigdictator; 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2banana; 2sheep; 45Auto; adam_az; af_vet_rr; agrace; ahayes; ...
This originally appeared in a year 2000 issue of Civilization and I'm reprising it from another FR topic where I quoted it.:
Islam Faces a New Era
by Munawar A. Anees
"Yet it is pointless for Muslims to write endless critiques of Orientalism without producing an equivalent set of ideas. While the West is armed to the teeth with tools for comprehending the Muslim ethos, where is the Muslim scholarship that can lay claim to a comprehensive perception of Western ideological shifts? Where is the Muslim critique of modernity, postmodernism, structuralism, globalization?

"...Islam is not intrinsically opposed to ideals of justice, equality, and human dignity. It is folly to assume that technological sophistication or economic prosperity need weaken, or run counter to, religious belief.

"Meanwhile, at some distance from the ivory tower lies the grim reality of much of the Muslim world: poverty; mass illiteracy; want of basic hygiene and primary health facilities; lack of fundamental liberties of religion and speech; little protection from state persecution. The revolution in Iran raised the hopes of the dispossessed and disadvantaged masses for an Islamic revival; two decades later, we see the movement deteriorating in strength and falling victim to sectarian strife."
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55 posted on 03/01/2004 10:09:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Anees is still alive, last I checked.)
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To: Wombat101
Mega post!!
56 posted on 03/01/2004 10:11:32 PM PST by dennisw (“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.”)
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To: ahayes
Algeria constructed a phony "insurgent" movement and phony nationality under the auspices of the Polisario Front. It's roughly analogous to what the Egyptian, Arafat, has done with the PLO.

Morocco considers Western Sahara to be Moroccan territory. Meanwhile, Algeria has a low-grade civil war going as a result of a more or less free election held after the longtime dictator died. An Islamic party won, the commie apparatchiks didn't want to relinquish power to it, and nullified the election results.

As a result, Algeria has had other things to worry about than what the Moroccan monarchy does in WS.
57 posted on 03/01/2004 10:14:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Anees is still alive, last I checked.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Anyone who likes Nick Drake (Amazon reviews) can't be all bad.
58 posted on 03/01/2004 10:15:37 PM PST by dennisw (“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.”)
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To: SunkenCiv
Algeria constructed a phony "insurgent" movement and phony nationality under the auspices of the Polisario Front. It's roughly analogous to what the Egyptian, Arafat, has done with the PLO.

Hard to find. I wish I had the website that complied the atrocities done by the Muslims during the Algerian war for independence. That served as a template for future Islamikazi terror. These days the Algerians and other Islamikazis colonize France

59 posted on 03/01/2004 10:20:07 PM PST by dennisw (“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.”)
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To: SunkenCiv
There is one fundamental point that anyone who writes this kind of stuff (i.e. Islam versus the West) always fails to mention: Islam lives in a vaccuum.

I believe in the premise, first put forward by Daniel Boorstein (The Dicoverers) that Islamic society differs from the Judeo-Christian (and thus, Western) world in one vital ideal, Islam gives the believer NOTHING to look forward to.

Jews await their Messiah and Christians await the return of Christ, and inherent in the belief of a first or second coming it the idea that the believer must strive to leave this world better than he found it. According to Islam, the greatest event that could EVER take place, already has --- Muhammed ascended into heaven. The only thing left to a Muslim is the fulfilment of prophecy in the Koran. That prophecy revolves around bringing the entire world under Islamic law, by any means necesary. Until that prophecy is realized, there can be no peace, ergo, things like history, science and progress are useless, unless they can be adapted to help perpetuate the prophecy.

Therefore, Muslims have no impetus to discover, no need to understand and even smaller motive to think coherently.

One only need remember that the 9/11 hijacker's toolkit (cell phones, credit cards, airliners, flight schools, computers, travel visas, and even the box cutters) were all WESTERN INVENTIONS. 'Nuff said.
60 posted on 03/01/2004 10:28:36 PM PST by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection....)
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