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Loretta Sanchez Weighs In: Loves Bush's Plan
West coast power house KFI LA radio/ Host John and Ken | 1-7-04 | Joe Hadenuf

Posted on 01/07/2004 6:42:40 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf

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To: Joe Hadenuf
Man, I don't know what to say.
21 posted on 01/07/2004 7:11:40 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Happy Iraqi Independence Day!!!!)
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To: adam_az
I guess Reaganwuzthebest because he just went right for the amnest then, huh!

Yup I guess.

This isn't about Reagan or that amnesty, it's been discussed a million times on this site and the mistake of it by me and others.

If you're for open borders say so, because the logic being used to justify this insanity is getting a little old. It's time for new talking points don't you think?.

22 posted on 01/07/2004 7:13:31 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Do you have a link to KFI web site?
23 posted on 01/07/2004 7:13:32 PM PST by mickie
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To: The Long View
-world people who are now free to be "willing workers" who need only line up a "willing employer" (a family member!) to get LEGAL permission to invade America.

So currently they just come illegally, do the same thing, earn below minimum wage, don't pay taxes, and plan their next terrorist attack without the government even knowing they're here.

Which situation do you prefer?

24 posted on 01/07/2004 7:15:28 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Abolish the food tax)
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To: JohnnyZ
It is NOT amnesty. REAGAN granted amnesty. Bush isn't. Bushizthebest.

It's an amnesty, that's what it is so let's be honest. No illegal living in this country will be made to go home and you know it. On top of that millions more will be coming in to get in the goodies.

25 posted on 01/07/2004 7:16:04 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Southack
. . . we'll finally be able to compell them to do so

LOL! You're funny.

They'll do one of three things: 1) not register to begin with, and stay underground, 2) register but simply go underground when three years are up, or 3) return to Mexico after three years, sneak back in and stay underground.

26 posted on 01/07/2004 7:20:02 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
See my post #15 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053635/posts?page=15#15 for my view.

I live in a border state, FWIW.
27 posted on 01/07/2004 7:22:39 PM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: RockyMtnMan
Once that program is underway they can accelerate the acceptance of existing LEGAL immigrants

I like that, but there are many that don't want that increased level of legal immigrants "invading" and "destroying" our country, "you anti-American Open Borders psycho".

28 posted on 01/07/2004 7:23:56 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Abolish the food tax)
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Actually, there is a fourth option. They will take out US citizenship when the time is right.

Which option they choose will depend on which option fits their particular needs and desires. It is least likely they will obey the law, register, work three to six years here, and return to Mexico to stay.

29 posted on 01/07/2004 7:24:12 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Amerigomag
and the callers are screaming for Bush's head on a platter.

Ah...that reminds me that I forgot to listen to Michael Savage today. I'd imagine he was on fire.

30 posted on 01/07/2004 7:24:52 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: JohnnyZ
" This is also NOT amnesty, slow-motion or otherwise."

Websters Dictionary.
(1)n. pl. am·nes·ties
A general pardon granted by a government, especially for political offenses.
(2)tr.v. am·nes·tied, am·nes·ty·ing, am·nes·ties
To grant a general pardon to.

il·le·gal
adj.
1. Prohibited by law.

n.

An illegal immigrant.

This lesson has been brought to you today by
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition.

31 posted on 01/07/2004 7:27:00 PM PST by JustAnAmerican
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To: adam_az
So what, I can post links to my posts all day too, what's the point lol?

We're talking about the future of the country here. I'm not prepared to give it away to anyone, let alone a third world country who has been in existence hundreds of years longer than the US. They're not our responsibility and it's time they stood on their own two feet.

32 posted on 01/07/2004 7:27:56 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: RockyMtnMan
"OR you can simply fine all the businesses $100k per infraction and threaten jail-time to those who don't comply. Then we can offer an Amnesty period to businesses if they give up their illegals or face the fines/jail-time. Just like ANY OTHER LAW, a fine or jail-time or BOTH."

Wow, what a simple solution. We could just set up internment camps for all 8 million illegals, plus some concentration camps for their 1 million employers, and deal with them all in an assembly line fashion.

I wonder why the Europeans didn't try something similar a few decades ago? They could have come up with neat sounding slogans like "Macht Mich Frei" on the gates to their prisons.

I'm sure that it would make for great campaign footage, too.

What a simple solution. Perhaps even a "final solution."

< /SARCASM >

33 posted on 01/07/2004 7:28:21 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
At the end of those 3 years, they have to return to their home countries, and since they have Registered, we'll finally be able to compell them to do so.

We may be able to, but we won't. You know it, I know it. And who's to stop them from coming back again?

34 posted on 01/07/2004 7:29:30 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Kevin Curry
"2) register but simply go underground when three years are up, or 3) return to Mexico after three years, sneak back in and stay underground."

Well, if illegals have nothing to fear from registering with our federal government, then American gun owners should have no similar fear either, right?!

Right?!

I mean, per you, such Registration is simply ignored or bypassed...

< /SARCASM >

35 posted on 01/07/2004 7:30:26 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
If they are breaking the law you can impose a fine, very simple indeed. Unfortunately the politicians receive money from corporations so they naturally wouldn't want to bite the hand that feeds them. Not sure where you got the internment crap (or was that the sarcasm?) from and I would ask you to uplevel your comments in this debate.

I've also posted a new thread: Keene on Illegal Immigrant Initiative

36 posted on 01/07/2004 7:33:21 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: Joe Hadenuf
How is an employer going to prove that he offered a job to an American citizen first?

It's worse than you think.

Eons ago, I was in the nanny market in Massachusetts, in the Dukakis days.

There was a thing called the Massachusetts job bank. Before you could legally hire a girl with a visa, you had to interview five candidates from the job bank.

Now comes the best part, something for all to look forward to:

If you rejected all five, you had to fill out justification and PROVE that you weren't discriminating on the basis of protected category status.

Your friendly federal EEOC is going to make DAMNED SURE you offer your job to a citizen, and if that citizen is in a federally protected category, you'd better have a very, very good and provable reason that you didn't hire them.

37 posted on 01/07/2004 7:33:29 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: RockyMtnMan

38 posted on 01/07/2004 7:33:49 PM PST by FrontlinesofFreedom (Pax Americanus)
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To: Mr. Mojo
"And who's to stop them from coming back again?"

To get to that point, the illegal worker has Registered, paid refundable taxes (among others) into a fund, and worked for 3 full years before self-deporting.

And at that time, with 3 years and thousands of Dollars in refundable taxes at stake, what illegal would risk it all to sneak back in illegally rather than follow the legal guidelines for applying for legal re-entry or for their tax refund?

39 posted on 01/07/2004 7:34:10 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: JohnnyZ
affirmative action for terrorists?
40 posted on 01/07/2004 7:34:25 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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