Loretta Sanchez Weighs In: Loves Bush's Plan

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[Reaganwuzthebest]

I'd love to see Bush switch to the Democratic party and stop fouling the GOP nest.

He's dividing the party with this at a time when it should be coming together to win in November.

[IGOTMINE]

You silly twit. The points are totally related. You argued that this is not an amnesty. My apparently too subtle for you argument was that it will sure as hell lead to exactly that.

Catch up.

[GeronL]

Anyone who thinks that illegals who are getting free medicine and free education while working illegally (because no-one is allowed to ask them if they are illegal) is going to go and sign up for a 3 year limit is braindead

[GeronL]

To get to that point, the illegal worker has Registered, paid refundable taxes (among others) into a fund, and worked for 3 full years before self-deporting

You really think illegals will do that?? please

[JohnnyZ]

My apparently too subtle for you argument was that it will sure as hell lead to exactly that.

Your "argument" presented no evidence.

[GeronL]

Your realize that most of the illegal workers in this country are using some other persons' SS#... and that person will be stripped of his benefits and it will go to the illegal... its already happening...

[IGOTMINE]

As I said, too subtle for you.

Let me spell it out. Social Security was never supposed to be the nation's retirement plan. Look where it is today. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was never supposed to lead to quotas...look where we are today. Those are only two examples. There are dozens of others.

And I suppose you believe the new health care benefit will only cost $400 billion? LOL!

[adam_az]

"We're talking about the future of the country here. I'm not prepared to give it away to anyone, let alone a third world country who has been in existence hundreds of years longer than the US."

Neither am I, but so far I don't see anything that says "giveaway" nearly as much as the status quo.

Which specific parts of the proposal do you think are worse than the status quo, and why?

[alnick]

Anyone know who was really behind this amnesty by another name? I can't believe it is solely Bush's idea. I hear that it was Karl Rove. Please enlighten me (us?)

That question is addressed in post 15 on this thread.

[Southack]

To get to that point, the illegal worker has Registered, paid refundable taxes (among others) into a fund, and worked for 3 full years before self-deporting

"You really think illegals will do that?? please"

Yes, because no illegal is going to want to risk losing 3 years of their lives, plus 3 years of refundable taxes, plus risk getting banned from the U.S. for life.

To get more time in the U.S., the illegals will have to deport themselves back to their home countries to make the proper applications for legal re-entry. Those who fail to go back home will LOSE the 3 years of their lives that they just invested into Bush's program (and they'll lose their taxes, etc.).

Who would risk that?!

[Southack]

"Anyone who thinks that illegals who are getting free medicine and free education while working illegally (because no-one is allowed to ask them if they are illegal) is going to go and sign up for a 3 year limit is braindead"

If no one signs on to Bush's new program, what do you have against it?!

[Houmatt]

I heard about that story. These idiots were trying to get into this country while calling themselves a married couple for some kind of convention. They were turned away because this country will not recognize their "union." They decided they were going to try to force us to accept them by filing legal action somewhere. If we have any gonads, that should make them persona non grata and not allowed to enter under any circumstances.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Which specific parts of the proposal do you think are worse than the status quo, and why?

The status quo is unacceptable, but we don't have to solve it with this. The CLEAR Act in Congress would have been a start to enforcing immigration laws, that's the route I'd like to see taken.

Bush is literally proposing open borders. Employers will find all kinds of ways to ditch American workers for cheaper foreign labor, HI-b has already proven that. Even Congress recognized that reality when they allowed the cap to go back down to 65,000 recently. Now Bush wants to raise them back up into the millions, and in every industry.

We already take in a million a year legally as it is, will there ever be a point when we say enough?

[CalKat]

Sanchez is Mexican and that is her maiden name.

[JohnnyZ]

Let me spell it out. Social Security was never supposed to be the nation's retirement plan. Look where it is today.

So any government action -- no matter its merits -- irredeemably leads to a worse end than predicted. No matter what the prediction is or who's making it.

Oh yeah, that's brilliant.

[bray]

Suppose we magically deport all the illegals. Who is going to pick the grapes and mow the lawns??? There needs to be a realistic solution to this problem. Most here would prefer the ignore the problem status quo than address it. There are no good solutions except a 2000 mile wall and a million man army??

Pray for W and Wisdom

[IGOTMINE]

Look at your phone bill....see that "interstate tax"? That's from the Spanish American War.

"No matter what its merits"? Oh, yes. Good intentions paving the proverbial road. Welfare? Lots of merit there! I'm sure even you can come up with a few examples.

Have you ever heard of the Law of Unintended Consequences? W's latest move will send unintended shockwaves through generations.

I love the man too, but get your lips off his boots long enough to realize he just screwed up, bad.

[IGOTMINE]

Look at your phone bill....see that "interstate tax"? That's from the Spanish American War.

"No matter what its merits"? Oh, yes. Good intentions paving the proverbial road. Welfare? Lots of merit there! I'm sure even you can come up with a few examples.

Have you ever heard of the Law of Unintended Consequences? W's latest move will send unintended shockwaves through generations.

I love the man too, but get your lips off his boots long enough to realize he just screwed up, bad.

[FrontlinesofFreedom]

Alexandria Coronado is running against Sanchez for 2004

[Southack]

"Bush is literally proposing open borders."

Nonsense. This plea bargain only applies to those already here, and to those who remain in their home countries to apply for legal visas. Sneaking over here illegally *after* Bush's plan becomes law will cost them their eligibility for this plea bargain. They'll never be able to be legal (per this plan) if they do that, while all of their buddies who follow the rules will have good paying jobs and no trouble from the INS.

That's the *opposite* of "open borders."