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Please pray for President Bush's understanding of Islam and Christianity. This could do in his whole Presidency.
1 posted on 11/20/2003 4:54:21 AM PST by truthandlife
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President Bush said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God!!!!

Or maybe some of them do?

2 posted on 11/20/2003 4:55:13 AM PST by A. Pole
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To: truthandlife
I pray that you have some understanding.
3 posted on 11/20/2003 4:55:39 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: truthandlife
Of all the things to focus on, you choose this, falling into the trap of the idiot reporter who asked that intentionally divisive question.
4 posted on 11/20/2003 4:55:52 AM PST by Miss Marple
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This could do in his whole Presidency.

Yeah, outraged citizens are already burning down Detroit and Salt Lake City.

5 posted on 11/20/2003 4:58:09 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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regardless of our differences...there is only one God.
6 posted on 11/20/2003 4:59:07 AM PST by mylife
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This is so far from the truth it is laughable. Most Christians believe in the Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). The Muslims believe that makes Christians polytheists. The Muslims do not belive that Jesus is the Son of God, nor that God is a triune being.

We do not worship nor belive in the same God. Sure, He has the same name, but that is where all similarity stops.

7 posted on 11/20/2003 4:59:20 AM PST by milan
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The God of marrying a 6 year old girl and raping her when she's 9?
8 posted on 11/20/2003 4:59:31 AM PST by samtheman
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To: truthandlife
This is your beef with the President today? Please. I actually think he is right. Just because the terrorists have a distorted view of God doesn't mean all people do. The Almighty is the Almighty. I agree with President Bush.
9 posted on 11/20/2003 5:00:23 AM PST by Wait4Truth
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President bush is correct. Jews, Christians (Mormons, Baptists, Catholics, etc), Muslims all worship the same God.

You may not like it, but it's true. If you deny that the God of the Muslims is the God of the Christians then you must deny that the God of the Catholics is the God of the Baptists or the Mormons or the adventists.

Now Mohamed may very well be a false prophet (and I'm very inclined to agree that he is) and the spin he placed on the judeah core of the religion is also therefore false but the same exact God is being worshiped.
10 posted on 11/20/2003 5:01:03 AM PST by pcx99
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No, it won't... (and by the way, the sky is not falling)
13 posted on 11/20/2003 5:01:14 AM PST by carton253 (To win the War on Terror, raise at once the black flag!)
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If Muslims want to worship the Judeo-Christian God, they are welcome to do so. But who in hell wants to worship Allah, a pagan moon god of murder and hatred?
15 posted on 11/20/2003 5:01:52 AM PST by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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To: truthandlife
How many Gods are there, anyway?
16 posted on 11/20/2003 5:01:54 AM PST by Rudder
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Nope. it is true.

God is God.

Our understanding of him is made perfect thru God's revealations in Jesus Christ.

But many non believers in Jesus nevertheless worship God as best they understand him, although their understanding of him is partial or distorted. That is why we find good people in all religions.

Remember when Paul saw the shrine to the unknown God? He didn't tell the worshippers that they were worshipping a false God, but showed them that this "unknown god" had come to earth as Jesus to tell them more about himself.

This is how we evangelize other cultures. Many good people become Christian because they find a deeper truth of their original beliefs in Christ's teaching. They are not rejecting their God, but recognizing that they had an incomplete or distorted idea in their original beliefs, and were happy that they now saw the true picture...

Most muslims love God as revealed by Abraham and Moses. They have many distortions in their religion, but it is the same God...
17 posted on 11/20/2003 5:04:20 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politcially correct poor people.)
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To: truthandlife
Did I wake-up in a theocracy? Waiter, more coffee.
18 posted on 11/20/2003 5:04:37 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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President Bush said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God!!!!

(...gasp!...)What did Bush know and when did he know it? IMPEACH! IMPEACH!

;-)

21 posted on 11/20/2003 5:08:11 AM PST by Nita Nupress
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Christianity and Islam differ significantly in their core beliefs.

Among the key differences:

GOD

Historical Christianity: There is one true and living God, who exists as three distinct, co-equal, co-eternal persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit (Deut. 6:4; John 20:28; Acts 5:3-4; 2 Cor. 13:14; 1 Peter 1:2).

Islam: The one true God is a being called Allah. He is a distant god, unknowable and unapproachable. He does not love all people, only those who do well. He is the author of evil as well as good since he predestines all things. He is not a triune god.

JESUS

Christianity: He is the virgin-born Son of God, conceived by the Holy Spirit (Isa. 7:14; Matt. 1:13-23; Luke 1:35). He is the eternal God, the Creator, co-equal and co-eternal with the Father and Holy Spirit (John 1:1-14; Col. 1:15-20; Phil. 2:5-11; Heb. 1:1-13). Jesus died for our sins (1 Cor. 15:3), rose physically from the dead (Matt. 12:38-40; Rom. 1:4; 1 Cor. 15:4-8; 1 Peter 1:18-21) and is coming back physically and visibly one day (Matt. 24:29-31; John 14:3; Titus 2:13; Rev. 19:11-14).

Islam: He is one of God's prophets or messengers, but inferior to Muhammad, who brought Allah's final revelations to man. The Koran denies that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and any Muslim who believes in the deity of Jesus has committed "the one unforgivable sin" called shirk -- a sin that will send that person to hell. Muslims do believe Jesus is the Messiah; was born of a virgin; lived a sinless life; and is coming back one day to establish Islam throughout the earth. They do not believe He died on the cross, but was called to heaven by Allah.

SALVATION

Christianity: Christ's death at Calvary completely paid our sin debt so that salvation comes by grace alone through faith in the person and work of Jesus (John 3:16, 5:24; Rom. 4:4-5; 1 Cor. 15:1-4; Eph. 2:8-9; Titus 3:5; 1 John 1:7).

Islam: The Koran teaches, "The true religion with God is Islam." This means salvation is achieved only through submission to the teachings of Islam. Forgiveness is based on good works and Allah's choice of mercy. The Muslim's chances for heaven are good if he 1) accepts the Muslim god Allah and his apostle Mohammad; 2) does good works and all that is required of him by Allah; and 3) is predestined to Allah's favor.

THE BIBLE

Christianity: The Bible is the inerrant, infallible, inspired Word of God, and is His sole written authority for all people (2 Tim. 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20-21).

Islam: Corrupted and untrustworthy. Islam claims the Koran is the literal Word of God, received supernaturally by Muhammad from the angel Gabriel. It supersedes the Bible, which also was given by Allah.

SIN

Christianity: Violation of God's perfect and holy standards. All humans are sinners (Rom. 3:10) and are under the curse of sin -- spiritual and physical death (Gen. 2:17, 3:17-19; Rom. 3:23). Only faith in Christ and His work on our behalf frees us from sin and its consequences (John 3:16, 5:24; Eph. 2:8-9).

Islam: Sin is lack of obedience to Allah. Man is sinful by act only, not by nature. Original sin is viewed as a "lapse" by Adam. Man is not really "fallen" in his sin nature; he is merely weak and forgetful. The most serious sin is that of shirk, or considering God as more than one, for example, as triune.

HEAVEN AND HELL

Christianity: Hell is a place of everlasting conscious existence, where the unbeliever is forever separated from God (Matt. 25:46; Luke 16:19-31; Rev. 14:9-11, 20:10). As for heaven, all believers have God's promise of a home in heaven, will go there instantly upon physical death, and will return with Christ from heaven to earth one day (Luke 16:19-31; John 14:1-3; 2 Cor. 5:8; Rev. 19:11-16).

Islam: Muslims believe in heaven and hell. Allah predetermines the eternal destiny of each person, and the hope of salvation for the Muslim is based on works, although no Muslim has the absolute assurance of heaven. Islam teaches its followers to prepare for the day of judgment in which each person's good and evil works will be measured, resulting in everlasting life in heaven or in hell.
26 posted on 11/20/2003 5:13:09 AM PST by truthandlife
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Please pray for President Bush's understanding of Islam and Christianity. This could do in his whole Presidency.

This really disturbs me. I believe that Christianity is on the chopping block right now.Reminds me of the " show down" on Mt. Carmel. God almighty, THE ONLY TRUE God will show himself and His power. Praying that Bush realizes that The evangelical Christians are who gave him the election in 2000!!

29 posted on 11/20/2003 5:14:33 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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Bottom line(sarcasm) - Everybody knows we all worship the same God, we might as well just have one whole world religion.

Everybody knows we all want to live in peace, might as well just have one whole world government.

People say it will never happen, but statements like this from the President of the United States show how easily it can.

34 posted on 11/20/2003 5:22:41 AM PST by Aerohawk
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Hmmm. A different way to phrase the question would be to ask: Do Jews and Moslems worship the same God?
37 posted on 11/20/2003 5:24:12 AM PST by Prodigal Son ("Fundamentalist Left". It's a great meme. Spread it.)
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Please pray for President Bush's understanding of Islam and Christianity. This could do in his whole Presidency.

While it's obvious that Episcopalians and Muslims don't worship the same god, we have to remember that a Presidential campaign is not the place for a theological debate. There are hundreds of millions of Muslims in the world, and hundreds of millions of Christians, and it is likely that most of both camps don't have a detailed understanding of their theology. There are Christians who have studied theology and Muslims who have studied theology, and those will understand the differences. For the rest of the world, all that is obvious are the similarities. They worship an all-powerful something-or-other that tells you how you ought to live.

I don't think this issue will do in the President's campaign, and I don't think this reflects that the President himself doesn't understand the differences.

That doesn't mean that those who know better shouldn't detail those differences in places like Free Republic (until it becomes illegal, like in Australia).

Shalom.

41 posted on 11/20/2003 5:27:13 AM PST by ArGee (Would human clones work better than computers? Both would be man-made.)
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