Posted on 09/02/2013 6:38:03 AM PDT by Red Statements
When you add two even numbers and your answer is an odd number, you have to suspect you are wrong. When you conclude the Syrian government launched the sarin gas attack, you get an odd number, you have to wonder why the answer is also odd. Carla Del Ponte., speaking of the first gas attack, told the UN that her investigation revealed concrete suspicions that the rebels had actually launched the attack.
“ "Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated."”
“ "This was use
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To answer the question. Whether it was the rebels or a third party, it was not Assad. Assad had nothing to gain with a gas attack. He is not a stupid man.
Mama always said, “Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.”
And did they use sadam’s chemical weapons burried in the desert?Did somebody show them where they were? Oh sorry I Forgot they never existed!
Then weird coincidence, this:
Britain sold nerve gas chemicals to Syria 10 months after war began
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3061326/posts
Revealed: Britain sold nerve gas chemicals to Syria 10 months after war began
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3061434/posts
UK Arms Exports: more caution needed, warn MP’s (UK exported hazardous chemicals to Syria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3061406/posts
In war, truth is the first casualty.
- Aeschylus
There are at minimum 4 factions involved (including Assad and the Baathists), and likely more. None of them are above this, none of them are above doing it as a false flag operation.
We have here a culture that does not really believe in Western ideas of truth and honesty to begin with, even in peacetime, let alone during war. We have reports that there were YouTube videos of the “aftermath” of the gas attack - the day before the attack.
The idea that we have incontrovertible proof that Assad ordered this attack would appear to be fanciful at best.
Why are we getting involved, again?
I suggest every Congressman be required to read and pass a test on the Powell Doctrine before voting on military action by the U.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_Doctrine
Yes, that (along with a WHY?) was taught long ago in proper American public schools and universities and was considered a requirement of proper Fourth Estate reporting.
The American MSM has degenerated to a Marxist DemoRat war mongering propaganda machine. Every word is an affront to "Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness".
It must not be that hard to obtain Sarin gas. A rag tag nut group in
Japan set off Sarin in a train.
When it is all said and done we may find a deep connection between both what happened in Libya and Syria.
A government that would arm Mexican drug cartels with automatic weapons to ensure the rise in deaths in order to effect debate about our 2nd Amendment rights is not to be trusted on anything. Why isn’t Eric Holder in prison?
This article doesn’t address the fact that the Syrian government kept UN inspectors out of the area for three days. If they knew that they didn’t launch the attack they would have rushed them to the scene
have my own theory about who used the chemical weapons and why.
First, a brief summary of what we know to date:
1. It makes no sense that the regime used chemical weapons to further any of its interests
” The Assad regime was not desperate. Over the past month or so the regime has launched a major offensive, reclaiming Homs back from rebel control, pressing forward towards Aleppo as well as having overrun other important positions held by rebel forces.” ...
“Now, until recently, Jordan has quietly and discreetly provided support for some of the rebel forces, particularly defectors from the Syrian Army which is good for the rebels and better than having jihadist, extreme Sunni sectarians or warlord types.
The speech was a surprise due to the level of uncertainty (rather than enthusiasm) it highlighted for the rebel cause. The King stressed that religious scholars –be they Sunni, or Shia, or Sufi or Salafi or Alawitte, I repeat “Alawitte,” must sit down together and do everything to end the sectarian motivated conflict with a negotiated settlement.
That speech must have made headlines throughout the Arab world or at the very least resonated in the chambers of al-Assad’s power. And yet, the next day the Sarin gas attack took place. Go figure”
2. However, the regime certainly acted guilty after the attack:
” If the Syrian Army did not launch this attack and it was the fault of the rebels, then why didn’t the Syrian regime allow, indeed encourage, the U.N. inspectors, staying in a hotel only an estimated 15 minute drive from the massacre, to go to the site last Wednesday instead of delaying permission? What’s more, immediately after the alleged chemical weapons attack took place, the Syrian Army launched an offensive and heavily shelled the area..”
Also, many have claimed that the rebels wouldn’t have had the means to launch such a large scale attack.
Hypothesis:
If you are an al Qaeda rebel with access to the internet, you would know that your best chance of becoming the new power in Syria would be to somehow get the government to use chemical weapons.
So your try to force a small unit that you know has the weapons into a no-win situation where they will use them, but you fail repeatedly.
Then, if you think overthrowing the regime and establishing Islamist rule is worth a few martyrs (sound familiar?) you go for plan B:
The next time a Syrian army officer offers to defect (and there have been plenty of army defections, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Syrian_defectors), you say: stay right where you are because you have access to the chemical weapons. We need you to fire off a few rounds into a civilian area, and THEN defect. By doing so you will bring the same coalition that toppled Ghaddafi to topple Assad.
Now imagine you are the Syrian regime reacting to this scenario. You call the head of Syrian DoD and demand answers. Knowing his regime and his life are on the line he calls the local commander in a panic and demands answers:
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/08/27/exclusive_us_spies_say_intercepted_calls_prove_syrias_army_used_nerve_gas
“Last Wednesday, in the hours after a horrific chemical attack east of Damascus, an official at the Syrian Ministry of Defense exchanged panicked phone calls with a leader of a chemical weapons unit, demanding answers for a nerve agent strike that killed more than 1,000 people. Those conversations were overheard by U.S. intelligence services, The Cable has learned”
The situation on the ground is a mess, the defector (or defectors) has deliberately muddled your understanding of what actually happened there.
You don’t want the UN to find out that you were even keeping the last resort weapons, and you definitely don’t want them to discover what the rogue unit has done (because you know how the UN/NATO will react) so you close off the area until you can figure out what happened. A few days later, you still don’t really know what happened but your continued blockage of the inspectors is becoming the equivalent of a guilty plea, so you let them in.
If a rag tag nut group in Japan can make or obtain Sarin gas, so can Jihadists Rebels in Syria.
Senior Syrian military chiefs tell captain: fire chemicals or be shot
By the way edwinland, you don’t have to send me a private email to
support your theory. This is an open forum.
Was this sarin gas weapons grade or home brewed like the Japanese
train attack? Do you know how this weapon was delivered?
Are you certain that there was not a home brewing plant in the neighborhood the gas was released and was either set off intentionally by
The rebels or by one of Assad’s conventional missile strikes?
How would you know such things anyway? The answer is you don’t
and I don’t, and therein lies the problem.
Likely. Very likely.
Obama wouldn’t lie to us, would he?
People have “NO” confidence in Obama and he needs to be IMPEACHED!
Thanks. It seems some Freepers are suffering from ODS.
I hit the wrong button. I had meant to reply here.
I don’t know why you want to argue about this. I don’t know anything about it other than what is reported in the news and that’s why I said it’s just my theory and included no info except links to news articles.
I don’t know if the rebels could have launched the attack on their own. But many articles cite the blocking of UN inspectors as evidence of government guilt. my theory attempt to explain how the rebels could be guilty and why the government would still have blocked the inspectors. It also would explain the panicked phone call.
if you are suggesting that no one should post their ideas or comments unless they have actual knowledge of the situation on the ground then there would be very few comments on FR.
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