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1 posted on 09/02/2013 6:38:03 AM PDT by Red Statements
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To answer the question. Whether it was the rebels or a third party, it was not Assad. Assad had nothing to gain with a gas attack. He is not a stupid man.


2 posted on 09/02/2013 6:46:09 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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Mama always said, “Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.”


3 posted on 09/02/2013 6:47:09 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHO & HOW That is what I was told a good reporter looked for.
So far I have seen WHAT, WHEN, WHERE & HOW, but no WHO.
All we have is the word of known liars and opportunist that it was the Assad Govt. As Truman used to quote a lot. "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it." How many wars in our history have been stared on lies from OUR government. Mexican, Spanish-American, Vietnam and maybe Iraq come to mind.
4 posted on 09/02/2013 6:57:28 AM PDT by Tupelo (There are no Republicans or Democrats in Washington. Just Millionaires protecting their turf.)
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And did they use sadam’s chemical weapons burried in the desert?Did somebody show them where they were? Oh sorry I Forgot they never existed!


5 posted on 09/02/2013 6:57:51 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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And then there's this:


7 posted on 09/02/2013 7:01:23 AM PDT by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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In war, truth is the first casualty.

- Aeschylus

There are at minimum 4 factions involved (including Assad and the Baathists), and likely more. None of them are above this, none of them are above doing it as a false flag operation.

We have here a culture that does not really believe in Western ideas of truth and honesty to begin with, even in peacetime, let alone during war. We have reports that there were YouTube videos of the “aftermath” of the gas attack - the day before the attack.

The idea that we have incontrovertible proof that Assad ordered this attack would appear to be fanciful at best.

Why are we getting involved, again?

I suggest every Congressman be required to read and pass a test on the Powell Doctrine before voting on military action by the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_Doctrine


8 posted on 09/02/2013 7:04:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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It must not be that hard to obtain Sarin gas. A rag tag nut group in
Japan set off Sarin in a train.


10 posted on 09/02/2013 7:29:30 AM PDT by tennmountainman (Stop Worrying And Learn To Love The Bomb!)
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Benghazi is a perfect template as to why this administration can not be trusted.

When it is all said and done we may find a deep connection between both what happened in Libya and Syria.

11 posted on 09/02/2013 7:30:42 AM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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This article doesn’t address the fact that the Syrian government kept UN inspectors out of the area for three days. If they knew that they didn’t launch the attack they would have rushed them to the scene

have my own theory about who used the chemical weapons and why.

First, a brief summary of what we know to date:

1. It makes no sense that the regime used chemical weapons to further any of its interests

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2013/08/27/Chemical-warfare-in-Syria-who-and-why-.html

” The Assad regime was not desperate. Over the past month or so the regime has launched a major offensive, reclaiming Homs back from rebel control, pressing forward towards Aleppo as well as having overrun other important positions held by rebel forces.” ...

“Now, until recently, Jordan has quietly and discreetly provided support for some of the rebel forces, particularly defectors from the Syrian Army which is good for the rebels and better than having jihadist, extreme Sunni sectarians or warlord types.

The speech was a surprise due to the level of uncertainty (rather than enthusiasm) it highlighted for the rebel cause. The King stressed that religious scholars –be they Sunni, or Shia, or Sufi or Salafi or Alawitte, I repeat “Alawitte,” must sit down together and do everything to end the sectarian motivated conflict with a negotiated settlement.

That speech must have made headlines throughout the Arab world or at the very least resonated in the chambers of al-Assad’s power. And yet, the next day the Sarin gas attack took place. Go figure”

2. However, the regime certainly acted guilty after the attack:

” If the Syrian Army did not launch this attack and it was the fault of the rebels, then why didn’t the Syrian regime allow, indeed encourage, the U.N. inspectors, staying in a hotel only an estimated 15 minute drive from the massacre, to go to the site last Wednesday instead of delaying permission? What’s more, immediately after the alleged chemical weapons attack took place, the Syrian Army launched an offensive and heavily shelled the area..”

Also, many have claimed that the rebels wouldn’t have had the means to launch such a large scale attack.

Hypothesis:

If you are an al Qaeda rebel with access to the internet, you would know that your best chance of becoming the new power in Syria would be to somehow get the government to use chemical weapons.

So your try to force a small unit that you know has the weapons into a no-win situation where they will use them, but you fail repeatedly.

Then, if you think overthrowing the regime and establishing Islamist rule is worth a few martyrs (sound familiar?) you go for plan B:

The next time a Syrian army officer offers to defect (and there have been plenty of army defections, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Syrian_defectors), you say: stay right where you are because you have access to the chemical weapons. We need you to fire off a few rounds into a civilian area, and THEN defect. By doing so you will bring the same coalition that toppled Ghaddafi to topple Assad.
Now imagine you are the Syrian regime reacting to this scenario. You call the head of Syrian DoD and demand answers. Knowing his regime and his life are on the line he calls the local commander in a panic and demands answers:
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/08/27/exclusive_us_spies_say_intercepted_calls_prove_syrias_army_used_nerve_gas

“Last Wednesday, in the hours after a horrific chemical attack east of Damascus, an official at the Syrian Ministry of Defense exchanged panicked phone calls with a leader of a chemical weapons unit, demanding answers for a nerve agent strike that killed more than 1,000 people. Those conversations were overheard by U.S. intelligence services, The Cable has learned”

The situation on the ground is a mess, the defector (or defectors) has deliberately muddled your understanding of what actually happened there.

You don’t want the UN to find out that you were even keeping the last resort weapons, and you definitely don’t want them to discover what the rogue unit has done (because you know how the UN/NATO will react) so you close off the area until you can figure out what happened. A few days later, you still don’t really know what happened but your continued blockage of the inspectors is becoming the equivalent of a guilty plea, so you let them in.


13 posted on 09/02/2013 7:51:54 AM PDT by edwinland
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Senior Syrian military chiefs tell captain: fire chemicals or be shot

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/425981/Senior-Syrian-military-chiefs-tell-captain-fire-chemicals-or-be-shot


15 posted on 09/02/2013 8:23:15 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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Every idiot competent enough to run a meth lab is able to make sarin gas as well.
Chemical weapons aren’t that complicated. Not to mention a number of storage facilities overrun by rebels.


28 posted on 09/04/2013 4:15:58 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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