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Hospitals are dropping Medicare Advantage plans left and right: 13 updates
Backers Hospital Reviee ^ | November 16, 2023 | Jakob Emerson

Posted on 11/24/2023 10:47:42 AM PST by buckalfa

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Things going as planned to collapse the system?
1 posted on 11/24/2023 10:47:42 AM PST by buckalfa
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Hmmm...I haven't had any problems and just did 30 days of outpatient treatment which billed at $1500/day.

Hospital just confirmed a Zero balance as of Monday.

2 posted on 11/24/2023 10:52:08 AM PST by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: G Larry
Hmmm...I haven't had any problems

Good for you, congratulations.

Systemically, however, MA programs are causing catastrophic harm and they should be discontinued soon.

Of course, every tweak to Federal and State health programs which envision public-private partnerships flooding Congress with bribes makes things worse, Medicare Advantage is no exception.

3 posted on 11/24/2023 10:55:15 AM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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To: buckalfa

Funny...the hospital where I get my care,a very famous one,just started offering its own Medicare Advantage plan.


4 posted on 11/24/2023 10:56:06 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: buckalfa

“That’s not a bug, that’s a feature.”


5 posted on 11/24/2023 10:56:54 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: buckalfa

The rates for Advantage plans during this last year crashed— and result being they were not accepted very long.

Result— 2024 plans increased by more than 25%/monthly premium. So likely to actually pay hospitals and not get dumped. If they don’t people are really going to be ticked.


6 posted on 11/24/2023 10:57:05 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: G Larry

Do you know how many dollars were actually paid?


7 posted on 11/24/2023 10:58:08 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: buckalfa

I signed up for standard Medicare.

It was not an easy thing to do.


8 posted on 11/24/2023 11:04:17 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: gloryblaze

I’m on Medicare A & B. Provider is Kaiser. Isn’t everything taken care of?

I keep getting hit on for C & D. No comprende. Healthy Harry here.


9 posted on 11/24/2023 11:04:21 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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... I keep getting hit on for C & D. No comprende....

I no comprende your question. Are you saying you are being asked to pay co-pays and deductibles?

10 posted on 11/24/2023 11:09:29 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: buckalfa; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
General Medical Information ping - Many hospitals are dropping participation in Medicare Advantage programs
Notice that this information is coming approximately one week before current healthcare policy contracts changes are to expire (12/7/23)
A number of national healthcare organizations are listed below in the posting narrative - Please review to see if you and your family are affected
It is all about the Medicare Advantage healthcare contracts - seniors most affected !

Medicare Advantage provides health coverage to more than half of the nation's seniors, but a growing number of hospitals and health systems nationwide
are pushing back and dropping some or all contracts with the private plans altogether."

"Among the most commonly cited reasons are excessive prior authorization denial rates and slow payments from insurers.
Some systems have noted that most MA carriers have faced allegations of billing fraud from the federal government
and are being probed by lawmakers over their high denial rates."

"It's become a game of delay, deny and not pay,'' Chris Van Gorder, president and CEO of San Diego-based Scripps Health, told Becker's.(Emphasis mine)
"Providers are going to have to get out of full-risk capitation because it just doesn't work — we're the bottom of the food chain, and the food chain is not being fed."

"In late September, Scripps began notifying patients that it is terminating Medicare Advantage contracts for its integrated medical groups,
a move that will affect more than 30,000 seniors in the region.
The medical groups, Scripps Clinic and Scripps Coastal, employ more than 1,000 physicians, including advanced practitioners."

"Mr. Van Gorder said the health system is facing a loss of $75 million this year on the MA contracts, which will end Dec. 31 for patients covered by UnitedHealthcare,
Anthem Blue Cross, Blue Shield of California, Centene's Health Net and a few more smaller carriers.
The system will remain in network for about 13,000 MA enrollees who receive care through Scripps' individual physician associations."

"If other organizations are experiencing what we are, it's going to be a short period of time before they start floundering or they get out of Medicare Advantage," he said.
"I think we will see this trend continue and accelerate unless something changes."

11 posted on 11/24/2023 11:11:12 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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Ooops! I realize you mean Medicare part C and D.... forgive me.


12 posted on 11/24/2023 11:11:47 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: buckalfa

I’ve had Medicare Advantage plans for years including hospital procedures and I have had no problems so far. But I do know others that have had problems. From what I can gather it seems to be related to the serving area.


13 posted on 11/24/2023 11:14:05 AM PST by plain talk
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To: buckalfa

Who remembers when Medicare was sold to us as free health care after we turn 70?


14 posted on 11/24/2023 11:14:55 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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Or 65


15 posted on 11/24/2023 11:15:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Back when I got old, I did lots of research and ended up with a Medigap plan and a drug plan. I’ve had one claim. I paid nothing, but the plan only paid 10% of the billed charges. What Medicare alone would have paid, I do not know.

It’s a mess.


16 posted on 11/24/2023 11:17:02 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: G Larry
Good for you but it is clearly not the case everywhere. There has to be a reason insurers push MA so hard. The answer is money and you don't bet more money by providing more services. You get it by rationing.

The problem for MA subscribers is that to change to a better plan it is more expensive but worse than that, you will have to qualify, being accepted into a non-MA plan is not automatic.

Odd though, going the other way from Part G or similar to MA is automatic. I wonder why? The answer is money and rationing.

All you really need to know is that MA is an Obamacare program.

17 posted on 11/24/2023 11:24:52 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: buckalfa

stay away from “Advantage Plans” like the plague... get the supplemental


18 posted on 11/24/2023 11:26:34 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Lots of people are going to die because of these decisions.


19 posted on 11/24/2023 11:29:58 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Brian Griffin

standard Medicare.


Only covers 80% at best, with a lot of gaps. You could easily get struck with Hospital bills of $100K after standard Medicare.


20 posted on 11/24/2023 11:32:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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