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Nikki Haley Is Not A Natural Born Citizen of USA To Constitutional Standards – Not Eligible To Be President - The Post & Email
The Post & Email Newspaper ^ | 30 Jan 2023 | CDR Kerchner (Ret)

Posted on 01/30/2023 10:17:55 AM PST by CDR Kerchner

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To: Just mythoughts

I disagree.. you are natural born if you are born to a citizen parent (after 1972) regardless of where you are born. Part of the reason this clause was even added was probably to protect the citizen children of diplomats and soldiers overseas.

For example, at the time this was promulgated Thomas Jefferson was ambassador in France: If his wife (or Sally Hemmings) had a child while there, they would be ‘natural born citizens.’


41 posted on 01/30/2023 11:07:47 AM PST by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: 4Zoltan

Yeh, well, Teddy aint the Supremes.


42 posted on 01/30/2023 11:08:26 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Just mythoughts

https://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen/


43 posted on 01/30/2023 11:08:50 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: coalminersson
I believe that former Louisiana Governor Piyush "Bobby" Jindal did the same thing in 2012. Neither of his parents were citizens when he was born, and he was being named as a potential Presidential candidate until he said no.

-PJ

44 posted on 01/30/2023 11:09:16 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: coalminersson

Maybe, but she’s been a citizen of the US for 51 years and a over or of her home state. Pretty sure she’s got solid American loyalty, but if you want to doubt that, go ahead. I’m of German heritage and proud of it……but I don’t want dual citizenship.


45 posted on 01/30/2023 11:13:55 AM PST by irish guard
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To: CDR Kerchner
Maybe you can get Orly Taitz, Mike Zullo, or Leo Donofrio on the case.

Or are they'll still busy trying to remove Obama from office?

46 posted on 01/30/2023 11:14:14 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Political Junkie Too

yes exactly of course Obama also got in when state secretaries let him in and the USSC shirked their duty


47 posted on 01/30/2023 11:14:22 AM PST by coalminersson
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To: Sacajaweau

lots of info on where a person is born. I disagree since they don’t support the citizen of the parents plenty of counter argument some posted on this thread.


48 posted on 01/30/2023 11:16:21 AM PST by coalminersson
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To: Tell It Right
Actually, the rule in the 18th century was that both parents must be citizens or subjects and must be married.

Otherwise, the bastard offspring of sailors visiting ports or Kenyan students would be "natural born" citizens.

49 posted on 01/30/2023 11:16:36 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: CDR Kerchner

Notice that this question is asked only about Republicans. It will be brought up again the moment Ted Cruz announces.

When it’s about obammy, every member of the leftist media is sworn to never ask the question.


50 posted on 01/30/2023 11:17:23 AM PST by I want the USA back (News media are pond scum. My pronouns: Haha, heehee, hoho, hoo hoo. )
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To: shadowlands1960

After 1972. Seriously??? There has not been one law, statute or supreme setting precedent to alter what constitutes ‘natural born citizenship’. The founding fathers gave NONE power or authority to alter the literal meaning…

Again since the garden party humanity has seen fit to make changes that fit their own personal narrative..


51 posted on 01/30/2023 11:19:11 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: CDR Kerchner

Blah, blah, blah....

I do not know why people get so hung up on the NBC issue. Not even our founding fathers who wrote the Constitution clearly understood what they were thinking they wanted to do. So an Amendment was necessary. (14th)

And does anyone know how many challenges there were to BHO’s candidacy? 30? 40? More?

The answer is more. Over 50. And not one single case prevailed.

Whether it be Obama, McCain, Cruz, Kamala, Haley or whoever....

If you are an American citizen - you can be president.


52 posted on 01/30/2023 11:20:02 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Donald Trump is a setting sun. Ron DeSantis is a rising star.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Harvard is woke.. check out what goes for medical school education.


53 posted on 01/30/2023 11:20:26 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: CDR Kerchner
We can have the discussions forever--in my mind, she is not a natural born citizen. She was an anchor baby. I think her parents were actually illegals at the time she was born. Obama had one citizen parent, he was born in the US, or at least there is not indisputeable evidence otherwise. Too bad the laws were not clearer and citizens have no apparent standing to challenge things, so we get foreigners running that shouldn't. Consider Lyn' Ted and Little Marco, as other examples. I'll skip them all.

And this goes without saying that she'd get trounced just as solidly as Lyn' Ted and Little Marco. Her candidacy is simply DOA.

54 posted on 01/30/2023 11:23:21 AM PST by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Retire, Spend Time With His Family.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Somrone born in USA is not necessarily a natural born citizen, even if ( as is usually the case) they’re American citizens.

The term natural born citizen is a legal term of many centuries’ scholarship. And It definitely does involve parental citizenship.

Fyi.


55 posted on 01/30/2023 11:24:23 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Just mythoughts

The reason I put that addendum in is because the law was changed on conveyance of citizenship by birth... before 1972 citizenship was only conferred to children born of males overseas... after 1972 it applied also to females overseas who give birth. This mirrored changes in British law. It is also the #1 reason no one wanted to touch the issues over Obama’s ‘natural’ born citizenship.. he was born before 1972 and his father was a British subject.


56 posted on 01/30/2023 11:24:36 AM PST by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“If you are an American citizen - you can be president.”

No. Arnold Schwarzenegger can never be president even though he is a citizen.


57 posted on 01/30/2023 11:25:25 AM PST by JSM_Liberty
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To: Responsibility2nd

And we do need to figure this out, otherwise will have some spawn of an Islamic Cult parent, born in the US, raise in some cesspool country, but somehow the next Obama running for president.


58 posted on 01/30/2023 11:25:45 AM PST by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Retire, Spend Time With His Family.)
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To: CDR Kerchner

I showed this to my BFF, Squeeky, and she just shook her head in dismay. Why is it, that your parents simply being in the country legally, when you are born here, is all that it takes to be “natural born”. Unless your parents are here as part of a diplomatic mission - why is that concept causes two-citizen parent Birthers to go all bonkers??? 14 years after Obama, and numerous court cases, and detailed analyis of Wong Kim Ark - and still the Birthers continue to birf???

I think that it is a form of insanity, or mental illness. Thank goodness none of these people are in charge of naval vessels, with guns and rockets and missiles and torpedoes and stuff! Think of the damage such a kook could do! Oh wait. . . EEEEEKKK! Duck and cover!


59 posted on 01/30/2023 11:27:19 AM PST by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts. +Sodomy & Abortion are NOT cornerstones of Civilization! )
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To: shadowlands1960

Cite the ‘law’ or supreme precedent.. did not happen!


60 posted on 01/30/2023 11:27:36 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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