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To: Just mythoughts

I disagree.. you are natural born if you are born to a citizen parent (after 1972) regardless of where you are born. Part of the reason this clause was even added was probably to protect the citizen children of diplomats and soldiers overseas.

For example, at the time this was promulgated Thomas Jefferson was ambassador in France: If his wife (or Sally Hemmings) had a child while there, they would be ‘natural born citizens.’


41 posted on 01/30/2023 11:07:47 AM PST by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: shadowlands1960

After 1972. Seriously??? There has not been one law, statute or supreme setting precedent to alter what constitutes ‘natural born citizenship’. The founding fathers gave NONE power or authority to alter the literal meaning…

Again since the garden party humanity has seen fit to make changes that fit their own personal narrative..


51 posted on 01/30/2023 11:19:11 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: shadowlands1960
(or Sally Hemmings)

Humm. The left needs to drag Thomas Jefferson through the mud. Examination of the evidence.

The Jefferson Hemings Myth

Discussion of Jefferson's character.

The Sally Hemmings story

"If the answer to these questions is that Jefferson was simply trying to cover up his illicit relations with Sally Hemings--not to mention the "Congo Harem" he allegedly maintained at Monticello--he deserves to be regarded as one of the most profligate liars and consummate hypocrites ever to occupy the presidency. To give credence to the Sally Hemings story is, in effect, to question the authenticity of Jefferson's faith in freedom, the rights of man, and the innate controlling faculty of reason and the sense of right and wrong. It is to infer that there were no principles to which he was inviolably committed, that what he acclaimed as morality was no more than a rhetorical facade for self-indulgence, and that he was always prepared to make exceptions in his own case when it suited his purpose. In short, beneath his sanctimonious and sententious exterior lay a thoroughly adaptive and amoral public figure--like so many of those of the present day. Even conceding that Jefferson was deeply in love with Sally Hemings does not essentially alter the case: love does not sanctify such an egregious violation of his own principles and preachments and the shifts and dodges, the paltry artifices, to which he was compelled to resort in order to fool the American people. "There is no vice that doth so cover a man with shame," said Francis Bacon, whom Jefferson accounted one of the three greatest men who ever lived, "as to be found false and perfidious.""

126 posted on 01/31/2023 10:43:24 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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