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Researchers propose a 'day zero' for the oldest computer ever discovered
PC Gamer ^ | By Katie Wickens

Posted on 04/15/2022 1:47:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Built some time between 200 BC and 60 BC, the Antikythera mechanism is the oldest known computer mechanism in existence. This ancient, geared device for tracking the heavens is in pretty bad shape after all that time.

But, despite the rust, researchers may have finally revealed a possible date it was first set ticking—also known as "Day Zero."

For a clock like this the calibrations would require a start date to ensure the device’s accuracy.

Recent advancements have pointed to the calibration date having been around the time the moon was in its apogee position, its furthest position in orbit from the Earth, which causes a kind of solar eclipse.

Aristeidis Voulgaris of the Thessaloniki Directorate of Culture and Tourism in Greece now supposes the calibration date was around 23 December 178 BC, backing it up with the fact that a bunch of other culturally important astronomical events happened simultaneously right just then. The winter solstice is one event that helped push the team toward their conclusion, particularly as the mechanism’s inscription mentions it specifically.

Four independent calculations have been made by other researchers, which place the device's calibration closer to 204 BC, however. These calculations relied on the period where the mechanism’s astronomical predictions were most accurate, but place the date in the summer. That potential has researchers scratching their heads over the prominence of the device’s winter solstice inscription.

Looks like there's still a way to go before researchers agree on a day zero for the Antikythera mechanism, then. Still, it's good to know this ancient precursor to modern tech isn't being forgotten about, even after all these years.

(Excerpt) Read more at pcgamer.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: antikythera; antikytheramechanism; archaeoastronomy; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; mechanism
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1 posted on 04/15/2022 1:47:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 04/15/2022 1:47:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: BenLurkin
A mechanical clock is not a computer.

3 posted on 04/15/2022 1:53:13 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: BenLurkin; Daffynition
But, despite the rust, researchers may have finally revealed a possible date it was first set ticking—also known as "Day Zero."

And:

Aristeidis Voulgaris of the Thessaloniki Directorate of Culture and Tourism in Greece now supposes the calibration date was around 23 December 178 BC, backing it up with the fact that a bunch of other culturally important astronomical events happened simultaneously right just then.

"Say you wanna... witness the birth of Christ..."


4 posted on 04/15/2022 2:05:18 PM PDT by Ezekiel ("Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️.)
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To: BitWielder1

Why is that?


5 posted on 04/15/2022 2:24:55 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
Because a computer runs a stored program.

The device in question is, at best, a calculator. A slide rule computes in the sense of a calculator; but, it does not run a program. The Antikythera mechanism is like a multi-tiered circular slide rule.

6 posted on 04/15/2022 2:32:35 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: BitWielder1

It is an analog computer. It does calculations so it computes.


7 posted on 04/15/2022 2:33:27 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: BitWielder1

Personally, I have doubts about it being a clock at all. But, it’s hard to find clear images or diagrams, and the ones I have seen are pretty heavily influenced by the researcher’s assumptions, so it’s hard to say for sure.

And my opinion may be influenced by the number of times archeologists have labeled something as a “religious object” or “used to chart the course of stars” when it was actually a common crafting tool. The drop-spindles that were labelled as “Prayer Sticks” were especially amusing.

I suspect that this mechanism will eventually be identified as being essentially a complex, high-capacity spinning wheel.


8 posted on 04/15/2022 2:38:11 PM PDT by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: BitWielder1

“A mechanical clock is not a computer.”

Correct.


9 posted on 04/15/2022 2:40:58 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: GingisK

I don’t suppse you’ve ever heard of a mechanical computer.


10 posted on 04/15/2022 2:42:30 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: BitWielder1

Whatever it was, it was a pretty intricate device for 100 BC


11 posted on 04/15/2022 2:42:33 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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To: WMarshal

The mechanism is not “Turing Complete”.


12 posted on 04/15/2022 2:42:34 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Mr. Lucky
The Babbage Machine is "Turing Complete". It was designed in the 1820s, but wasn't actually built until the 2000s.

There is an important difference between calculator and computer.

13 posted on 04/15/2022 2:44:52 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Mr. Lucky

Can you program a mechanical calculator to solve a Taylor Series, and then solve a Rubics Cube? No. A calculator performs arithmetic, it does not follow preprogrammed algorithms.


14 posted on 04/15/2022 2:47:28 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: WMarshal

No sir, it calculates. It performs arithmetic. There must be a stored algorithm for a machine to be classified as a computer.


15 posted on 04/15/2022 2:49:13 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
That would be a great limitation, if only you were entitled to serve as gate keeper for the English language. But the fact is that the term mechanical computer has been a part of the language for quite a long while.
16 posted on 04/15/2022 3:01:56 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Ezekiel
Tell you what... you really, really, really do not want to see this guy on your train, plane, or ship...
17 posted on 04/15/2022 3:07:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: BenLurkin
Tell you what... you really, really, really do not want to see this guy on your train, plane, or ship...

I am not familiar with this one. Looks rather unsavory. Could you tell me the name?

Because,

When you posted, I was over writing this post about a dream of a guy on a plane, so I didn't see yours til just now.

(Re the 358 reference.)

18 posted on 04/15/2022 3:49:37 PM PDT by Ezekiel ("Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️.)
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To: BenLurkin

Watch some fantastic machining user “clickspring” builds one on youtube. He talks about the math and gearing of it all.


19 posted on 04/15/2022 3:50:07 PM PDT by stickandrudder (Another Bitter-Clinger! God-Family-Tribe - LGBFJB brotherhood)
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To: Ezekiel

A character from this movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTONc49V3YA


20 posted on 04/15/2022 3:54:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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