Easy to answer!
Posted on 04/24/2021 6:21:22 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
These aren’t your California cousin’s EVs. In fact, a growing number of economists, sociologists and psychologists say they could turn even guys who grew up on ’60s muscle cars into something they might not have identified as before: environmentalists.
The 1,000-horsepower beast he preordered from General Motors is the new electric Hummer. It will be the third Hummer Mr. Dykes, whose family-owned company operates in 14 states, has owned and, at $112,595, the most expensive. He says what sold him were the ads. GM bought a spot featuring basketball superstar LeBron James in this year’s Super Bowl.
Magali Delmas, a professor of management at the University of California, Los Angeles, says most people buy things based on five criteria: quality, cost, health benefits, status enhancement and emotional connection. She uses a related term: “convenient environmentalists,” for people who will make the green choice only if it doesn’t require sacrifice.
(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...
Do people realize what it takes to make these batteries for electric vehicles?
The cost in materials, labor, and pollution, and energy consumption?
I’d buy a used truck and put the rest of the purchase price into investments.
And no one has discussed the disposal of the batteries.
No, many people are clueless.
says most people buy things based on five criteria: quality, cost, health benefits, status enhancement and emotional connection.
My criticism of EV has always been about the practicality of the tech. Not that EV can’t serve in neche applications.
This is a novelty, not the same as the advantages that gas can give you in terms of reliability, affordability, efficiency, and effectiveness.
Gas engines are very reliable when maintained and can be serviced just about anywhere. They work in all weather conditions. They are way more cost effective in both materials and production. They are very efficient in getting you from point A to B with little problems.
Given the points above they’re still better than electric at this point.
Has anyone figured out where we are going to get all this additional electricity generation and delivery to power all these electric vehicles?
...and you easily can carry a full jerry can with you; much harder to carry a spare 5 gallons of electrons!
—”The cost in materials, labor, and pollution, and energy consumption?”
The article is about ‘Accidental Environmentalists’, they may not be overly concerned about details.
On radio news this morning, a Tesla was on fire. Took four hours and 32,000 gallons of water to put out the batteries . The two in the car burnt to death. The firefighters called Tesla for help. Tesla didn’t offer a viable solution to extinguish the fire
—”Given the points above they’re still better than electric at this point.”
Today that is true; a moving target.
And the TCO on some is currently slightly ahead of ICE.
https://advocacy.consumerreports.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/EV-Ownership-Cost-Final-Report-1.pdf
If you go to Home Depot, Lowes or Best Buy you will see rechargeable battery recycling drop-off boxes.
They can recycle lithium batteries I believe.
Well, car/truck batteries are bigger...Trust your car/truck dealer to add a revenue stream.
Easy to answer!
“lithium from Australia comes from ore mining, while in Chile and Argentina lithium comes from salt deserts, so-called salars. The extraction of raw materials from salars functions as follows: lithium-containing saltwater from underground lakes is brought to the surface and evaporates in large basins. The remaining saline solution is further processed in several stages until the lithium is suitable for use in batteries.”
Or where the electricity comes from and how much is lost on the way.
https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/six-largest-lithium-reserves-world/
That says about 61 million tons of lithium reserves are now known.
That is probably not sufficient to power the cars of the world in 2050.
Not to mention all the Red Chinese rare earths going into the batteries.
1,000 HP and 1150 ft-lbs torque. Sounds great for towing. But with 350 miles range empty, I bet it’s 200 or less towing a 7K lb trailer. So I can basically commute and get groceries in it?
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