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The tank turn would be fun until the tires shred!
1 posted on 04/24/2021 6:21:22 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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2 posted on 04/24/2021 6:22:03 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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Do people realize what it takes to make these batteries for electric vehicles?

The cost in materials, labor, and pollution, and energy consumption?


3 posted on 04/24/2021 6:30:02 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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I’d buy a used truck and put the rest of the purchase price into investments.


4 posted on 04/24/2021 6:30:17 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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The 1,000-horsepower beast he preordered from General Motors is the new electric Hummer. It will be the third Hummer Mr. Dykes, whose family-owned company operates in 14 states, has owned and, at $112,595, the most expensive ...

says most people buy things based on five criteria: quality, cost, health benefits, status enhancement and emotional connection.


7 posted on 04/24/2021 6:33:25 PM PDT by plain talk
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My criticism of EV has always been about the practicality of the tech. Not that EV can’t serve in neche applications.

This is a novelty, not the same as the advantages that gas can give you in terms of reliability, affordability, efficiency, and effectiveness.

Gas engines are very reliable when maintained and can be serviced just about anywhere. They work in all weather conditions. They are way more cost effective in both materials and production. They are very efficient in getting you from point A to B with little problems.

Given the points above they’re still better than electric at this point.


8 posted on 04/24/2021 6:37:40 PM PDT by Bayard
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Has anyone figured out where we are going to get all this additional electricity generation and delivery to power all these electric vehicles?


9 posted on 04/24/2021 6:39:31 PM PDT by McGruff
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https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/six-largest-lithium-reserves-world/

That says about 61 million tons of lithium reserves are now known.

That is probably not sufficient to power the cars of the world in 2050.


18 posted on 04/24/2021 6:56:35 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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1,000 HP and 1150 ft-lbs torque. Sounds great for towing. But with 350 miles range empty, I bet it’s 200 or less towing a 7K lb trailer. So I can basically commute and get groceries in it?


20 posted on 04/24/2021 6:58:34 PM PDT by ETCM
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An Electric Truck would be stupid. I use a truck to tow a trailer and haul things, not to showoff how much money I have. If it had a 300 mile unloaded range, the loaded range would be about 100 miles pulling a 8K lb trailer.

A Diesel electric hybrid truck would be cool. An Electric truck would be stupid.


21 posted on 04/24/2021 6:58:54 PM PDT by UNGN
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not all recycling processes are the same:

Smelting: Smelting processes recover basic elements or salts. These processes are operational now on a large scale and can accept multiple kinds of batteries, including lithium-ion and nickel-metal hydride. Smelting takes place at high temperatures, and organic materials, including the electrolyte and carbon anodes, are burned as fuel or reductant. The valuable metals are recovered and sent to refining so that the product is suitable for any use. The other materials, including lithium, are contained in the slag, which is now used as an additive in concrete.
Direct recovery: At the other extreme, some recycling processes directly recover battery-grade materials. Components are separated by a variety of physical and chemical processes, and all active materials and metals can be recovered. Direct recovery is a low-temperature process with minimal energy requirement.
Intermediate processes: The third type of process is between the two extremes. Such processes may accept multiple kinds of batteries, unlike direct recovery, but recover materials further along the production chain than smelting does.

https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/electric_batteries.html


22 posted on 04/24/2021 6:59:58 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“A South Korean sodium-ion battery managed to handle about 500 complete charging cycles before its capacity dropped to 80%, according to a May 2020 publication.

“A battery with a slightly different chemical structure devised by a US-Chinese research group achieved 450 charge cycles with a similar charging capacity. And a Chinese sodium-ion battery had a slightly lower capacity, but still retained 70% of its capacity after 1,200 cycles of quick 12-minute charging.”

https://www.dw.com/en/the-batteries-of-the-future-sodium-instead-of-lithium/a-54707542

“sodium has two disadvantages. For one, it is three times heavier than lithium, so sodium-ion batteries are also heavier, even though lithium accounts for less than 5% of the total weight of a battery.

“In addition, sodium batteries are less powerful because they inevitably lose around 10% of their energy density due to a 0.3-volt lower cell voltage. This is largely owing to the fact that the graphite anodes that have been used up to now in batteries absorb too little sodium.”


24 posted on 04/24/2021 7:04:53 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Where are the electric tractors and combines needed to plant and harvest food crops? How does a tractor or combine get recharged in the middle of a field? Add food shortages and starvation to the effects of the Green New Deal.


26 posted on 04/24/2021 7:13:52 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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The entire premise is silly.

Very few would choose an electric truck. Very few.


33 posted on 04/24/2021 7:28:23 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Electrics are cool. I can’t help but wonder how long of a cord does that Hummer have. I haven’t seen any news item about the discovery of that battery the EV folks have been promising since 1890.


56 posted on 04/24/2021 8:26:30 PM PDT by Tupelo (Old, Tired, Cranky and Disgusted)
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It appears to me that replies to this thread are missing the point that impressive numbers are beginning to come from electric solutions.

I just bought a 2021 vehicle to discover that the power steering was electric. This has both advantages and disadvantages, but in the past was impossible.

The author is trying to say that those interested in some performance numbers may find themselves looking at electric.

The Dyke looking for a hummer and drooling over LeBron is undoubtedly a leftist wacko, in any event.


57 posted on 04/24/2021 8:27:04 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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The EV Hummer “crab walk” feature is useful. It can also be used for a reduced turning radius, and quick parallel parking while driving forward instead of in reverse.


60 posted on 04/24/2021 8:39:19 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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Nothing lebron does will ever make me want to buy a product. As I a matter of fact, it is the opposite.


74 posted on 04/24/2021 11:40:03 PM PDT by jrestrepo (Now I am an insurgent. Starve the beast (any way possible) )
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Fire departments will have to use a different strategy when they catch fire.


76 posted on 04/25/2021 1:15:43 AM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (17)
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A better question would be; How is the electric grid going to handle this new demand?


78 posted on 04/25/2021 4:58:34 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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public transit, the far more energy-efficient option

That's a whopper. Cost is proportional to total energy consumption. Government transit is so energy inefficient the fares typically only cover 10% of the costs. If they tried to charge the full costs, nobody would ride these virus vector mobile insane asylums.

79 posted on 04/25/2021 5:16:03 AM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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