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An update on Snowbirds crash in Kamloops
kamloopsthisweek.com ^ | 05/17/2020 | Tim Petruk

Posted on 05/18/2020 8:38:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Public affairs officer Capt. Jennifer Casey died in the crash, pilot seriously injured after jet crashed into house in Brocklehurst. Kamloops Mayor Ken Christian said the Snowbirds remain parked at Kamloops Airport for the foreseeable future.

The incident took place seconds after a pair of Snowbirds aircraft took off from Kamloops Airport at about 11:45 a.m. Dozens of versions of video of the crash and its aftermath circulated on social media in the hours that followed.

The videos show one of the planes flying vertically before a pilot is ejected, followed by an airborne explosion and the subsequent crash. Some clips show a second occupant of the plane ejecting shortly before impact.

Capt. Jenn Casey, the squadron’s public affairs officer, died at the scene of the crash.

Dana Hings, a retired nurse visiting Kamloops from the Lower Mainland, said she rushed to offer first aid after hearing the crash nearby.

“I saw a deceased female with catastrophic injuries,” Hings told KTW. “It looked like she hit a tree."

(Excerpt) Read more at kamloopsthisweek.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aerospace; canada; crash; kamloops; snowbirds; update
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To: 60Gunner
The Blue Angels' F/A-18s are the oldest in the Fleet. Typically, they've maxed their carrier landings, but still have hours on the airframe.

I think that's going to change soon when they start flying Super Hornets.

No idea what Block F-16s the Thunderbirds are using.

41 posted on 05/18/2020 11:52:22 AM PDT by real saxophonist (If you don't have a gun, sell some toilet paper, and go buy a gun. - Colion Noir)
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To: TexasGator

They ejected outside the envelope of the seats.

The pilot was lucky his chute opened before impact.

Analysis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Og_7sqU7s&fbclid=IwAR1F5dH3XxItR3K0NfriBloRyvZMOnfRLdEtDuiWDN3oyhf_AmezHQjD58g


42 posted on 05/18/2020 1:40:56 PM PDT by hattend
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To: volunbeer

It only has one engine. It sounded like it had a problem just after take off (You can hear a “bang” in the video)


43 posted on 05/18/2020 1:43:31 PM PDT by hattend
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To: DesertRhino

She was the Public Affairs officer on the way to another show. She was not the pilot.

You don’t think women should be a passenger in a training jet?


44 posted on 05/18/2020 1:45:36 PM PDT by hattend
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To: hattend

Thanks - for some reason I was thinking of the German Alpha Jet.

Sad to see this. I love airshows and watching the demonstration teams is always fun.


45 posted on 05/18/2020 1:45:37 PM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: TexasGator
Which video?

The one I referenced was taken down I found this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=schuuopLo3w

That is 0 mins and 8 secs into this video

46 posted on 05/18/2020 1:52:08 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: TexasGator

The one I referenced was taken down I found this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=schuuopLo3w

That is 0 mins and 8 secs into this video


47 posted on 05/18/2020 1:52:43 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: TexasGator
She was climbing with a left turn at slow speed and rolled 90 degrees left resulting in no lift.

I don't think that was the intent at all. She was flying with her fellow pilot when she suddenly veered off and up to the left.......Electronics or mechanical malfunction is my guess.......

48 posted on 05/18/2020 1:55:23 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

Pinned by blancolirio
johnpolitis
17 hours ago (edited)

I have over 3000 hours on the tutor and was a member of the 81 and 82 Snowbird teams. The ejection seat is, as you explained, a 0-60 seat; but in the early 80’s we learned that this did not factor for any downward vector. Pilots were then advised to try and not initiate an ejection below 2000 AGL unless it was the last resort. Watching the video I see that the pilots initial actions were exactly as I remembered: Zoom, Idle, Airstart. Sadly, it appears that the ejection sequence began after the aircraft was descending. Prayers for the pilot that did not survive....heart breaking.


49 posted on 05/18/2020 2:36:07 PM PDT by hattend
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To: hattend
it appears that the ejection sequence began after the aircraft was descending.

That addresses the ejection, but nothing about what caused the aircraft to veer upwards and to the left then down into the ground.....

But that's what after accident investigations are for.........

50 posted on 05/18/2020 2:48:25 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

Trading airspeed for altitude after an engine problem.

Pretty standard procedure. Unfortunately, the plane stalled and spun before they could get to a safe ejection altitude/location.


51 posted on 05/18/2020 2:56:07 PM PDT by hattend
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To: Hot Tabasco

See post 49. It was posted by a former Snowbirds pilot who has flown the aircraft.


52 posted on 05/18/2020 2:58:44 PM PDT by hattend
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To: TexasGator

well she wasn’t experienced and she wasn’t the pilot....the pilot ejected....survived but barely...


53 posted on 05/18/2020 3:20:37 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
She was climbing with a left turn at slow speedand rolled 90 degrees

Feel better now?

54 posted on 05/18/2020 3:33:36 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: hattend
It was posted by a former Snowbirds pilot who has flown the aircraft.

No it wasn't, it was quoting a former pilot.

Aeronautical accidents such as this one aren't solved by second hand statements such as the one that was quoted...........

55 posted on 05/18/2020 4:13:08 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: hattend

Please accept my apology for my post #55.......I misunderstood the post and didn’t realize you were quoting another source..........


56 posted on 05/18/2020 4:23:42 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: PAR35

“I didn’t see a mid-air explosion in the video.”

Depends on which videos you see...right now. That’s one of the main headaches the TSB will have as they are working with so many turned in videos. I think the trail from the second egress is what some people are interpreting as a midair explosion because it came briefly later than the first. But it is another possibility so it has to be considered and, we both feel, disregarded. Kind of the old all in good time.

rwood


57 posted on 05/18/2020 9:36:16 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: TexasGator

“Left turn over houses.

That turn people are talking about was a little more than just a turn...it was an immelmann and a clean one at that. We haven’t heard the radio transmissions but that type of turn is the fastest way to reverse heading and could have taken them back over the runway the quickest. It could have been an effort to take a downwind landing with a sick aircraft that they ultimately lost altogether. But that’s just an educated guess.

rwood


58 posted on 05/18/2020 9:45:41 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: 60Gunner

“Does any other nation’s military aerobatic team use aircraft as antiquated as the Tutor?”

Here is a listing of most of the exhibit teams around the world, some active and some not. A few still use prop aircraft many first designed in the 60’s. I’m not sure which is the oldest as many of the teams have either changed or updated the frame or power even if they continue to use the older craft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_air_display_teams

rwood


59 posted on 05/18/2020 10:03:56 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Redwood71

I take it you are not a pilot.


60 posted on 05/18/2020 10:26:55 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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