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Why are Governments Trying To Stop Corona virus?
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Posted on 03/01/2020 11:02:59 AM PST by DouglasKC

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To: ransomnote
18,500,000 X 20% = 3,700,000 requiring medical intervention. WHo knows how many of those 20% need prescriptions vs hospitalization? What percentages apply to severe flu years in the past?

I didn't spell it out but addressed it by using a very low number of hospitalizations, 10%...or half of the generally agreed upon figure of 20% for severe symptoms. But even at 5% it's still way above capacity.

41 posted on 03/01/2020 11:40:38 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: CodeToad
“EVERY single government and government official on the face of the earth INCLUDING President Trump and VP Pence who are taking it just as seriously?” That’s a bit of histrionics, dontcha think?

No I think it's a statement of fact.

42 posted on 03/01/2020 11:41:14 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Rockingham

BTW, my data was one day out of date. Italy now has 566 new cases of coronavirus and 5 new deaths, raising total to 1,694 cases and 34 dead since yesterday. That’s how fast things change in Western countries.


43 posted on 03/01/2020 11:41:40 AM PST by Wayne07
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To: ifinnegan
Talk about overthinking it. Sorry, but who has any idea what you’re trying to say. Don’t take this personal. I’m just being straightforward.

No problem. Just pointing out that there's a good reason why governments around the world are taking it seriously.

44 posted on 03/01/2020 11:42:19 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

1 death in the US so far. 1. You dramabugs have been screaming this would end the world as we know it for several months now. 1. Just 1 death.

You sound like the liberal global warming types telling us we have only got 10 years left.


45 posted on 03/01/2020 11:43:19 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: DouglasKC

The current daily mortality rate in the US is approximately 8.5 per 1000 people.


46 posted on 03/01/2020 11:43:20 AM PST by myerson
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To: DouglasKC

“Just pointing out that there’s a good reason why governments around the world are taking it seriously.”

I agree.

It’s new (novel) and therefore unknown.

To use a word from a past politician, it’s prudent.

Err on the side of caution.

You should look up PHEMCE.


47 posted on 03/01/2020 11:44:43 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: DouglasKC

I thought your question was a super good one to ask, the question of why governments are taking it so seriously.
Good topic for vanity cause it’s not addressed and asked in the media that i see.

I appreciate the gracious way you replied to other freeper.

High quality post


48 posted on 03/01/2020 11:47:01 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: CodeToad

Why would you accuse him of scare mongering when his post explicitly compared death rate to a typical annual flu?

He isn’t asking governments to take it more seriously, he is asking why they are taking it so seriously.


49 posted on 03/01/2020 11:49:12 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Nifster

“No the death rate isn’t high compared to the flu. When we actually get some verified numbers out of China,Iran,South Korea, Japan then we can talk”

Your comment seems to imply that those countries are minimizing the death rate. Why do you think they would do that?


50 posted on 03/01/2020 11:52:08 AM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Nifster

The possibility of 10 to 20% of the working population being at home JUST sick of the flu for 3 to 4 weeks is very serious economically.


51 posted on 03/01/2020 11:52:14 AM PST by Ponyexpress9790
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To: DouglasKC

Thanks! I’ve been looking for two days about the reason for the fear - mortality rates to not warrant the fear we see. This is the first thing I’ve seen which makes sense.


52 posted on 03/01/2020 11:52:42 AM PST by impactplayer
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To: DouglasKC

OR, just bring in 40-50 high-capacity portable incinerators to handle all the bodies, like China did:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/china-deploys-40-incinerators-wuhan-21529067

&

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/china-deploys-40-mobile-incinerators-wuhan-report


53 posted on 03/01/2020 11:54:30 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: CodeToad
1 death in the US so far. 1. You dramabugs have been screaming this would end the world as we know it for several months now. 1. Just 1 death. You sound like the liberal global warming types telling us we have only got 10 years left.

Do you have an alternate reason why every government on the face of the earth including the United States government is taking this very seriously?

54 posted on 03/01/2020 11:54:43 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Thanks for this.

Just this morning I was playing with the numbers and I came up with similar results.

55 posted on 03/01/2020 11:56:04 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: DouglasKC
Ron
@CodeMonkeyZ

A Japanese biodata team has discovered that SARS-CoV-2 
as seen in Tokyo is different than what is seen in Kyoto and 
Nagoya.

56 posted on 03/01/2020 11:56:12 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: carriage_hill
OR, just bring in 40-50 high-capacity portable incinerators to handle all the bodies, like China did:

I think that's just what they did. They decided NOT to treat the 20% and just see who lived and died...that's why the "hospitals" they are building look more like warehouses for the sick.

57 posted on 03/01/2020 11:56:17 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
But let's say it ONLY spreads as rapidly as the common flu.
In an average year 5% to 20% of the population of the United States will get the flu. (Source: webmd.com https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/flu-statistics). The US population is about 370,000,000. Let's go with a very low flu season at 5% infected:
370 million X 5% = 18,500,000 infected in a year from the common flu.
So IF nothing is done AND this thing ONLY infects the same amount as an average flu year there will be 18,500,000 infected by the corona virus.

Your estimates are off for this reason:

No one has any preexisting immunity to this virus. The influenza or the common cold-causing strains of corona virus circulate in a population that is mostly immune. In a naive population, there could be hundreds of millions of cases.

I do not know off-hand what the R0 rate was for the 1917-1919 influenza pandemic, but I do know that they were converting any large building they could to hospitals. They also implemented containment measures. Millions of people died, including well over half a million in the US alone.

58 posted on 03/01/2020 11:57:36 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: CodeToad

Code they have gone for 2 months with practically no screening or testing here in US.

They are starting Monday...

Come back here in 2 weeks after results in and prove all the “dramabugs” wrong.


59 posted on 03/01/2020 11:58:17 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: DouglasKC

Appeciate the post.


60 posted on 03/01/2020 11:59:28 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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