Skip to comments.EXPERT TESTIMONY FROM CLIMATE SCIENTISTs
Posted on 11/09/2019 2:54:28 AM PST by sodpoodle
Subject: EXPERT TESTIMONY FROM SCIENTISTs
The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from the Consulate at Bergen, Norway. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coast cities uninhabitable.
I must apologize. I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2 , 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post 96 years ago. This must have been caused by the Model T Ford's emissions or possibly from horse and cattle farts.
Where did you find this ? Archives of the Associated press ?
Its true that newspapers across the country published a story about climate change in the Arctic Ocean in 1922.
The article appeared on page 2 of the Washington Post on November 2, 1922, under the headline, Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt. The text of the article reads:
The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway.
Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm.
All you have to do is read about Franklin and the hunt to find him. At one point, the Brits had 5 naval expeditions on the Northern side of the Canadian archipelago. They had no problems getting around.
When America got into the race for the poll, they had at least one ship on the north end of Ellismere Island in the Lincoln Sea. There is nothing north of that but the pole. Things change.
A nice article about Fort Conger and the tragic end of the Greeley Expedition.
> “Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coast cities uninhabitable.”
Note here “due to the ice melt the sea will rise”.
Ice contracts when it melts. Water is weird that way. Whereas most substances expand upon heating, water expands when freezing.
So if I have these so-called scientists in front of me say in a star chamber without a lawyer present and a guillotine showing through the window next to their seats, I will proceed to hold an inquisition where they will be given an opportunity to SHOW ME THE SCIENCE! And if it becomes evident they are not scientists but rather charlatans with a political agenda, they can have a choice to end their miserable lives at the guillotine (just kidding) or be deported to Venezuela (or Cuba).
So here’s what I would ask them:
1. Have you mapped the iceberg-glacial structures both above and at/on/below sea level?
2. If so, what is the volume of ice both above and at/on/below sea level?
3. Do we agree that glacial ice at/on/below sea level is eight to nine times the volume above sea level?
4. How much less volume will we have if all the ice melts from the total mapped ice-glacial structures?
5. Given the last two questions above, where in the hell do you get off declaring sea levels will rise with contracting volumes? IS THERE SOME SORT OF FRICKEN NEW LAW OF PHYSICS YOU ARE HOLDING BACK FROM THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY???
I am beginning to think the guillotine would be merciful to these demons.
And 22 years after that:
And 20 years after that:
And 20 years after that . . .etc. . . . etc. . . .
Thanks for your post.
I am bookmarking it and copying it to give to a niece who is totally convinced Global Warming is the Gospel.
She and I are having an ongoing discussion about this issue.
Do you have any more information like this? That is free of the commentary such as was given at the end of these articles?
THANK YOU in advance.
Go to pinterest.com (think you have to sign up - no biggie) and enter “arctic is melting newspaper”. Lots of items pop up with quite a few newspaper articles.
You might also buy her “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change” by Marc Morano. https://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Climate-Change-Guides/dp/1621576760?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=1621576760
The Greenies charge that he is a spokesman for fossil fuel companies - but don’t say he is incorrect. Exposes a lot of the ways the enviros skew data to support their claims.
A very good YouTube also exposing this is “My Gift to Climate Alarmists” at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvrsA0XlYGg
If she is really open minded on this, a point to ask her is why, if Climate Change is so solid, do they have to skew the data?
Thank you for those links and for that information and ideas. All are appreciated!
No problemo - the more valid sites we can quote in rebuttal, the better.
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