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I agree with this 100%. I trained in traditional Tang Soo Do, but learned an eye opening lesson when I started studying Thai boxing. There is a significant difference between a bout in a ring, with rules and a referee, and a street fight.
The man is a hero ... Oyate and Mitose brought Ok8nawan Karate to Hawaii ... later to the USA. I teach Ryukyu along with Kyusho and Small Circle Jujitsu ... I love Issin ryu ... which of course is a close cousin of Ryukyu and Shorin ryu ... the katas are more in Ryukyu are more kehon than that of Issen ryu ... but I like the flair of Issen ryu better
The Jeet Kune Do “center plane” concept is a very ingenious discipline.
There is no ‘one answer’ or ‘one discipline’ that works in every situation. There is no DRUNK TIGER or KICKASS DRAGON ‘move’ that will solve every situation.
The basics are the most important. Balance and being able to take a fall being the first two. I started water skiing when I was 5 years old and you quickly learn to balance and you quickly learn how to deal with falling and tumbling while moving at 30-35 mph. Classes in Judo also taught me how to deal with falling on land (which is a little different than falling on water at high speed).
The next important thing is also one of the concepts of many disciplines, and a favorite of the TV show KUNG FU, and that is ... Don’t be where you can be hit.
MMA fighters know this well. STAY OUT OF RANGE. Most people that get into ‘fights’ on the street, don’t know or use this technique.
The author comparing MMA and street fighting is simply ignorance. MMA and Street fighting have totally different goals. MMA has rules whereas street fighting doesn’t. You know all that anyway.
I’ll put it this way. A person who has had some kind of self-defense training or even sports training (I wrestled too) is much more likely to win(survive) than someone who hasn’t.
I’m not claiming to be Bruce Lee or Mike Tyson, but having those skills does help. Maybe you won’t win, but you at least will be able to walk away after the fight.
If you kick them in the kneecap, they probably won’t be able to walk away. : )
You’re getting warmer.
Even the MMA guys aren’t real fighters.
Most people don’t know how to keep their chin tucked and throw a proper punch. The person who can stay under control and throw straight punches will beat the person swinging wildly. Another skill is knowing when you can avoid a fight and when you can’t. The second a fight becomes inevitable it’s best to land the first punch. Many fights end after the first punch is landed.
Congratulations for sticking with it...I left Isshin Ryu in mid ‘70’s when I married and began coaching college football...I just didn’t feel I had the time to do it correctly...Now I’m too old and missing a leg would make it extremely difficult...LOL
That’s why my brother became a victim of the knock-out game. He lost situational awareness. He thought that because he was a liberal anti-Republican, those “youts” wouldn’t hurt him. They did.
The one time someone tried to do that to me, I ducked at the right time and he punched me in the crown of the forehead, where you head a soccer ball which I played. Two very small girls were able to restrain him after that.
“Martial arts are fake because I got beat up trying to do movie chop-saki. Also YouTube.”
What a dweeb.
It’s funny that some talk about going to the ground ... try that in a bar with a bar bully and his buddy’s. Hope that grappler likes wearing bar stools and beer bottles. My nephew (by marriage) is the reigning BJJ no gi world champion ... well you can guess that we play ... I have several BJJ trained students and some MMA students well ... I dont teach BJJ nor MMA ... so I may have “ some “ experience with them ...
Yep...The sooner you can end a fight, the less chance you’ll get hurt...
A college wrestler will be the baddest guy on the street.
I don’t know how many sorry karate fools kids have had a hard lesson when their spawn messed with a wrestler.
The toughest guys I have to play with are sreet fighters who have been “guests” of the state / feds ... they are very unpredictable and un orthodox... I have a couple of them I train with / teach
Remember Samo Hung who was Jackie Chan’s Chinese school of Kung Fu co-student? Marshall Law was the show, I think. He actually said in a real fight, no “real” martial artist would actually do those kung fu stances..They would fight like they were in a brawl you see in high school fights XD
“but I’ve been in enough altercations to know things like meditation and flow states will get your head kicked in during a real bout.”
The main point is to teach the CONSCIOUS to STAY THE FORK OUT OF THE WAY and let the SUBCONSCIOUS run the BODY. The Conscious mind cannot operate fast enough to control all the signal communications it takes to operate the body.
The conscious mind should only decide WHAT it wants, and let the Subconscious decide the HOW.
Now, that sounds easy, but it really isn’t. That is why Meditation is beneficial to martial arts, or just about any physical endeavor.
I like that ... I teach my students ... what’s the best way not to get hit ... dont be there
We did learn how to fend off (counter) in serious ways, and were trained to handle most moves. It became totally reflexive, and you never forget.
We also knew how to "stay out of range" back then. Refs call that a lot quicker in today's wrestling world. "Stalling!"
I'm not saying there is nothing to martial arts, I'm just saying a highly trained collegiate or Olympic wrestler is going to win most confrontations without knives or guns.
Works best if you have a lit M-80 cupped in your hand. I mean you might lose your hand... but the other guy's heart might explode.
I have two Greco practitioners in my school ... they are very tough ... pretty much immune to joint locks. However given that they practice a sport with rules and refs/judges they are not used to a life preservation art which will bite joint strike and gouge eyes without a second thought.
The Bruce Lee strike ... vibrating hand to CV 18 ....
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