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Itís time to admit most traditional martial arts are fake and donít actually teach you how to fight
South China Morning Post ^ | 10/24/2019 | Patrick Blennerhassett

Posted on 10/25/2019 2:03:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 10/25/2019 3:11:14 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

I still remember my first ice hockey fight. All the movies Iíd watched as a kid, where highly choreographed fight scenes looked like expertly planned dance routines, had horribly lied to me. By the time I realised I was in a fight, at the tender age of 16, it was already half over and Iíd taken three or four solid shots to the face and my jersey had been pulled well over my head, rendering me blind. The experience was jarring: unfiltered chaos, blurred vision in one eye from an errant thumb poke, a ringing eardrum from getting punched in the side of the head, the taste of my own blood and swallowing a tooth. There was just disorganised, violent confusion with a skyrocketing heart rate and buckets of adrenaline. I held my breath as my body went into shock and when it was over I threw up in the penalty box from exhaustion, even though the whole thing lasted less than 45 seconds.


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TOPICS: Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: fake; fighting; martialarts
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1 posted on 10/25/2019 2:03:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I guarantee you that some students of traditional martial arts can indeed fight and win fights with the skills taught them.

I can tell you that my study of Shotokan and Tae Kwon Do greatly increased my coordination and athleticism.

But are they are prepared to face MMA fighters?

Nope. Not even a little bit.


2 posted on 10/25/2019 2:07:33 PM PDT by chris37
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To: SeekAndFind

When I studied Isshin Ryu under Master Harold Long (look him up) in the early ‘60’s, every Saturday was dedicated to nothing but “street techniques”...

I never had a problem...


3 posted on 10/25/2019 2:08:03 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not about fighting

it’s about having the skills that you don’t have to use them

Your reputation will proceed you


4 posted on 10/25/2019 2:08:07 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: chris37

I was thinking of starting to learn Krav Maga.


5 posted on 10/25/2019 2:08:39 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...going to a couple of karate classes...”

It took me 6 years of study to obtain 1st Dan Black Belt in Isshin Ryu...


6 posted on 10/25/2019 2:11:22 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: chris37

Were traditional martial arts ever meant for down and dirty street fighting? We all know the karate scenes in movies are highly choreographed, and that an opponent in real life will not be sticking to the script.


7 posted on 10/25/2019 2:11:30 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: SeekAndFind

As a USAF Security Policeman on town patrol duty in ROK in 1969 I can’t tell you how many drunk Airmen I encountered trying to fight each other using Tai Kwan Do that got their butts kicked.


8 posted on 10/25/2019 2:12:06 PM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: SeekAndFind

It would have helped if you had edited what you posted so that we didn’t have to read thru identical paragraphs.........


9 posted on 10/25/2019 2:12:15 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: dfwgator

I think that is basically street fighting discipline...Great style to study, IMO...


10 posted on 10/25/2019 2:12:27 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: dfwgator

There is a style worth studying IMO!


11 posted on 10/25/2019 2:13:46 PM PDT by chris37
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To: vigilence

Fully half of all people who get into fights end up losing.


12 posted on 10/25/2019 2:14:11 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: SeekAndFind

During my misspent youth I spent a few years studying Chinese boxing. The defenses I learned against grabs (arm grabs, shirt grabs, etc.) were quite useful and valuable. Everything else, not so much.


13 posted on 10/25/2019 2:15:41 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Cecily

No, they were not, but I have seen several fights settled with traditional martial arts techniques.

It really depends on how any given person applies a technique to any given opponent.

If you are a street punk, and you pick a fight with someone who has studied karate for years, you are very likely going to lose.


14 posted on 10/25/2019 2:16:27 PM PDT by chris37
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To: Leaning Right

I find it very misleading that people point to these Youtube videos of an MMA fighter beating a “Kung Fu” Master. The fact is, whenever you have a professional fighter against someone who is not a professional fighter that pro will generally win. This is the same game the Gracies used to grow UFC, they were all professional fighters against people who were not. It’s never the style that determines the fight but the person. Also, if they allowed eye gouging, biting etc. these fights might be different.


15 posted on 10/25/2019 2:20:09 PM PDT by JMS
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To: SeekAndFind
I was a very good high school wrestler, walk on at a major top 3 NCAA school (got in for my athletics).

After college I took a series of nightly lessons from one of the ten original Japanese Akido teachers.

After the lesson each night, the black belts and myself would go at it.

I crushed them. They simply didn't have a whisper of hope. None of them.

It just goes to show that we were as highy trained as the most advanced martial arts. If you waited, you could get behind them and hogtie them. I could have broken their necks any time I wanted.

16 posted on 10/25/2019 2:22:11 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: Truthoverpower

But in a place where people who have reputations congregate, that doesn’t matter.


17 posted on 10/25/2019 2:25:45 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: chris37

Fighting, like everything else in the human experience, never goes that well the first time someone does it. I’m sure that the famous lover Don Juan’s first sexual experience with a woman was probably only 30 seconds long and mostly enjoyed only by himself. I don’t care who you are when you’re in your first fight and you get your face punched hard, it is a revaluation.


18 posted on 10/25/2019 2:26:36 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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To: chris37
I guarantee you that some students of traditional martial arts can indeed fight and win fights with the skills taught them.

Maybe, maybe not.........

I had an uncle who was a fly weight boxing champion back in the early 1930's. The one thing I learned from him was to make sure you get in the first punch by smashing in his nose then treat the fight as if your opponent is trying to kill you..,..That means gouging out his eyes or grabbing his wind pipe and crushing it or smashing his balls...

When you have made the decision that you are fighting for your life, there are no rules........

As for your martial arts, you don't see any of that crap anymore, it's all MMA. And MMA is all about grappling and subduing your opponent while beating on him.........

19 posted on 10/25/2019 2:28:02 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: SeekAndFind

bttt


20 posted on 10/25/2019 2:28:02 PM PDT by timestax
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