Posted on 10/25/2019 2:03:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Edited on 10/25/2019 3:11:14 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
Yep, The only difference would be where they strike making all the difference in the world in disabling an opponent. You can be blinded or rendered deaf for life, or have your windpipe crushed and choke to death. Or all three can be done in just a few seconds.
My only martial arts experience is with Judo, which is probably closer to wrestling than other, punchier martial arts. I didn’t go very far with it, but I am really glad that I took it, because most of the early levels is just learning how to fall down without getting hurt. You start out falling down in all directions, and getting thrown for about a hour or two a week, and rolling your way out of it becomes instinctual. I credit judo at a young age for the fact that I have never had a serious sports injury, even though I have had my share of ski accidents.
Most people think stories like that are just fantasy.
BUT...... the tiny PISTOL SHRIMP can snap his claws and shoot a bubble of air at 62 mph which heats up to 4700 Degrees Centigrade . The bursting bubble makes a sound that reaches 218 Decibels (louder than a shotgun).
If a 2 inch shrimp can do all that, then a Grand Master can likely do many fantastic things.
Black belts have become participation trophies.
“Fully half of all people who get into fights end up losing.”
50% loss rate. Why try? (lol)
I am not a fighter, so I claim no expertise on the subject. But back long ago, carnivals would feature a boxer. If you could go three rounds with him, you’d win some sort of money prize. Big tough farms boys, the toughest for miles around would get into the ring expecting to have an easy time of it, only to go down for the count. The carnival’s boxer was a pro and the farm boys weren’t.
And repetition, repetition, repetition, until it is automatic without thought. But you are absolutely right, be aware of your surroundings and try to not even get yourself in the situation in the first place.
Putting aside pride and vengeance is the best of martial arts. My first Sensei told us that if you cannot talk your way out, walk your way out, or run your way out, then and only then turn and finish them off permanently.
It’s a problem that traditional martial artists have recently be dealing with. 10 year olds running around with black belts. The schools that do this are called “candy shops” ... unless you are super talented ... it takes 5-7 years of DEDICATED work to become a 1st Dan (shodan) black belt in any of my four schools
LOL!
Gunfighting is a martial art.
I’ll stick with that.
Count Dante was legit tough.
My experience tells me otherwise.
A good wrestler never gives the chance to his opponent have those mentioned techniques used on him on a mat or not.
I wrestled for 12 years. I tried out a couple of different karate disciplines after high school. Anytime we were allowed to “fight” it wasn’t even close.
Ju Jitsu and some kind of Kempo was the two we tried I believe. Also went to a taekwondo place and decided that was mostly exercise.
This discussion has been bantered back and forth for decades.
The middle of a game fight isn’t the place to accurately assess the effectiveness of martial training. I mean really, a mob brawl? Any sensible person would try like hell to duck and run. Based upon the authors own reaction to this fight I’d say fighting isn’t his thing. Very often a trained fighters success is owing to striking suddenly and forcefully enough to cause, well, EXACTLY the reaction the author had to getting belted.
We had the same experience. Learning to roll through a fall has saved me many times. Like you, taught in childhoood, it becomes an instinct.
Ah, studying the combat sport of Hah-Ki.
Thanks for that. Truly an LOL.
We have different experience ... my brother was a state champion wrestler ... We have played ... by the rules ... he gets me ... no rules I own him ... of course I dont cripple him but he’s honest enough to admit it when I get him. I have knocked him out / stunned him a “few” times using pressure points. One of my students is a 6th Dan BJJ guy. He didn’t think the points worked until I paralyzed him ... not permanently... with a neck pinch.
My very limited experience is that in a real world fight, the guy’s friend behind you hits you before you realize it is 3 against one...
Well I couldn’t argue that your experience doesn’t exist but I stand by my assessment in general.
Again it’s always fun to banter back and forth........
Reminds me of the Tyson vs. Ali in their “prime” discussion. I say Tyson because he could take a punch and couldn’t be psyched out.
I was very good friends with a third-degree tae kwon do black belt, who would’ve gone to the olympics were it not for an abnormal bone growth in her foot. She always insisted the best fighting from Hollywood was Star Trek (the original series). (This was the early 90s.) (And of course, she wasn’t including the Vulcan Death pinch and other sci-fi magic.)
Here in Hollywood, one of the guys I spoke with was with Keanu reeves on John Wick 1. The stunt guy told us the fight choreographer said he prefers Jiu Jitsu because the objective is to pin your opponent. It works very well on robbers because you can call the cops afterwards and the idiot who is down isnt that hurt in a way they can sue you..
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