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Edelweiss über alles
Steyn On-line ^ | April 20, 2019 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 04/20/2019 10:21:19 AM PDT by Twotone

The moronization of society proceeds apace. As we mentioned on the show, a bigshot New York Times correspondent thinks that playing "Edelweiss" at the White House is some kind of Nazi dog-whistle to Trump supporters. It is tragic and profound the way even small artifacts of our inheritance get trashed in these witless arguments, so, if you want to know the real story of the very last song in the Oscar Hammerstein catalogue, here's what I had to say a couple of years back:

Not long after Rodgers & Hammerstein wrote the song, Theodore Bikel was leaving the theatre when he found a fan and fellow immigrant waiting at the stage door for his autograph: 'I love that "Edelweiss",' said the theatregoer. 'Of course, I have known it a long time, but only in German.'

Not for the first time, Hammerstein had done too good a job. Just as his 'Ol' Man River' for Show Boat is assumed by many to be an authentic Negro spiritual, so 'Edelweiss' is assumed to be an authentic Austrian folk song. Not so. In both cases, a great craftsman manufactured them to solve a structural problem with the storytelling. But he did it so well that they have become for real what they were only intended to simulate. Some years ago 'Edelweiss' was played at the White House, at a state dinner for Austria's President Kirschschlager, and everyone but the Austrians stood up for the national anthem. Actually, no. The current Austrian anthem is 'Land der Berge, Land am Strome', and the only official anthem by Rodgers & Hammerstein is their title number for their very first show, which serves as the state song of Oklahoma.

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TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment; Society
KEYWORDS: edelweiss; marksteyn; moronization; nazi; steyn; tds; tsom
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To: miss marmelstein
Unbelievable stupidity. Maggie Haberman should hang her head in shame.

Obviously, an indication that she has a severe shortage of homosexual men in her social circles, and one of which could point the song's origin along with other show tunes. I wonder if she deliberately avoids them.

21 posted on 04/20/2019 11:38:45 AM PDT by Bernard (We will stop calling you fake news when you stop being fake news.)
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To: Twotone

I first heard this song in the Sound of Music. It was sung by the Von Trapp family; Austrians who were FLEEING the Nazis!

How in the same hill did it become a song FOR Nazis???


22 posted on 04/20/2019 11:44:25 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Bernard

If she’s going to comment on show tunes, I suggest she either befriend Mark Steyn or get a few gay buddies. Not lesbians, of course, who have no musical tastes.


23 posted on 04/20/2019 11:55:53 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Kid Shelleen
"That movie clip always gives me the chills. ”

Yeah, cuz we know what the Nazis had in mind. But, at the risk of being flamed, it's a good tune, that IIRC written by a pair of Jewish songwriters, ironic..

"The interesting side note is that some people thought they could control the Nazis by sharing power with them.”

Yeah, the industrialists didn't side with Hitler until it became join the Nazis or the communists, who would destroy them. Same with the conservatives who supported the Kaiser. "Rock and a hard place", I guess. I don't know how anyone who read "Mein Kampf" could come away from it without knowing Hitler was mad and the Nazis plan would end in world wide disaster.
24 posted on 04/20/2019 11:58:34 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Welcome to Thunderdome... America 2019)
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To: Twotone
How many people have a TV?

How many only get broadcast television?

How many people get cable TV?

How many people subscribe to Amazon Prime?

See, each number is smaller than the previous.

By the time you get to Amazon Prime, it's less than 5% of all who have a television.

Of those who get Amazon Prime, how many have watched “The Man in the High Castle”?

So, here is a typical Millennial who thinks everyone watches the same streaming service she does and associates the song with a fiction story about how the Nazis won WWII.

NOT the millions who saw “The Sound of Music.”

BTW, up until at least a decade or two ago many US schools showed The Sound of Music; my school actually took us to a theater were it was playing.

Anyway, Haberman is such a partisan idiot/moron/simpleton she still hasn't grasped how stupid her comment was, and doesn't get what everyone on Twitter is telling her re: the Sound of Music.

25 posted on 04/20/2019 12:00:03 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Twotone
That would have been the Obama White House, where everyone stood thinking Edelweiss was the Austrian national anthem.

It also was the time where Obama said during some utterances that he “didn’t speak much Austrian!!!”

26 posted on 04/20/2019 12:04:31 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: RedMonqey

Yeah, that’s not a real Nazi song either.


27 posted on 04/20/2019 12:06:28 PM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: RedMonqey
“Tomorrow belongs to me”

That one has my vote for creepiest song in the movie, maybe in any movie. Brilliant moment.

28 posted on 04/20/2019 12:07:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Alas Babylon!

At the nanosecond the White House played it it became so. The hatred blinds them to so much.


29 posted on 04/20/2019 12:12:30 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Billthedrill
"That one has my vote for creepiest song in the movie, maybe in any movie. Brilliant moment.”

I bet a lot of millennial leftists believe the real Nazis actually marched into Poland to this tune.

If they actually knew that the Nazis did storm into Poland and not 'bombed Pearl Harbor"
30 posted on 04/20/2019 12:16:33 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Welcome to Thunderdome... America 2019)
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To: Rockingham

“A slow tempo version of Edelweiss is used to open The Man In The High Castle, Amazon’s alternative history drama about an America under occupation after losing WW II.”

yep, and you can bet your bottom dollar that ignorant NYT reporter thought the song was a nazi song because she heard it every time she watched a new episode of that show ...


31 posted on 04/20/2019 12:21:46 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Twotone; BTerclinger

I can’t keep up with all the outrages and offenses.

What this serves to do (besides outing idiots and hateful people) is to put the movie back into the public eye, a narrative that ends with the escape from an exceedingly evil regime.

No wonder cages are rattled.

Edelweiss Edelweiss
Every morning you greet me
Small and white
Clean and bright
You look happy to meet me

Blossom of snow may you bloom and grow
Bloom and grow forever
Edelweiss Edelweiss
Bless my homeland forever.

And of course the snarky baroness cracked that she should have brought along her harmonica.

It’s a song about the [free] state, the medina as it were. Much broader application than Austria.

Not insignificant, therefore, that this little star-shaped flower grows at high altitudes and that in Hebrew “edelweiss” = 127, the medina in which the Jews were scattered in the book of Esther, meaning “star” and “hidden”.

Nazis (Amalek, Haman), hidden Jews/flowers (Esther, star), the 127 medina... it’s all in there.

Something is about to go “boom”, like the Establishment Baby Boomers who hate everything that is clean and bright, small and white (like the little stars representing the states of America, or the manna from heaven, or Israel).

What’s the matter with these people?

Good people bloom. Bad people go boom, by their own hand, choices.

Luv this President. He’s Captain von “Trapp”, haha.

We really are living in a movie. Purim is here and is “reel”, x 10,000.

MAGA: Bless my homeland forever.

Look what’s coming up on Monday:

Haman’s downfall and execution by hanging - Nissan 17

Omer: Day Two - Gevurah sheb’Chessed
Tonight Count 3

The third day really is the second day (see Gen 1:8, the place of the third day in the Torah). The first two days are on the first day in verse 5. But who’s counting.


32 posted on 04/20/2019 12:23:19 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word.)
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To: madison10

“...a bigshot New York Times correspondent thinks that playing “Edelweiss” at the White House is some kind of Nazi dog-whistle to Trump supporters..”

Makes you want to root for the nazis against guys like this.


33 posted on 04/20/2019 12:33:23 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneow)
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To: Twotone
Same title, different song:

Edelweiss--Band and Chorus of the Infantry Regiment "Gross-Deutschland" (1939)

34 posted on 04/20/2019 12:42:29 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: miss marmelstein
it would be one thing if the White House tooted out “Tomorrow Belongs To Me.”

Heard that played one day during the Changing of the Guard at Buckingham Palace.

35 posted on 04/20/2019 12:55:53 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: Fiji Hill
I was always partial to the German Imperial Anthem from 1871

Imperial Anthem of Germany 1871 to 1918"

36 posted on 04/20/2019 12:59:21 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: Ezekiel
What’s the matter with these people?

It mentions the word 'white'.

37 posted on 04/20/2019 12:59:22 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: pbear8

That’s hilarious. Did they goosestep to it?


38 posted on 04/20/2019 12:59:38 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

No, but my friends and I were ROFL. Well, maybe not the floor, we were watching from the Victoria monument.


39 posted on 04/20/2019 1:01:00 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: RedMonqey
Think of the angst if they had played this .... LOL

Rommel's favorite, that magnificent bastage>

40 posted on 04/20/2019 1:03:12 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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