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The Nastiest Feud in Science
The Atlantic ^ | Sept 2018 | BIANCA BOSKER

Posted on 08/12/2018 7:56:38 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

...But Keller doesn’t buy any of it. “It’s like a fairy tale: ‘Big rock from sky hits the dinosaurs, and boom they go.’ And it has all the aspects of a really nice story,” she said. “It’s just not true.”

...Keller’s resistance has put her at the core of one of the most rancorous and longest-running controversies in science. “It’s like the Thirty Years’ War,” says Kirk Johnson, the director of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History. Impacters’ case-closed confidence belies decades of vicious infighting, with the two sides trading accusations of slander, sabotage, threats, discrimination, spurious data, and attempts to torpedo careers. “I’ve never come across anything that’s been so acrimonious,” Kerr says. “I’m almost speechless because of it.” Keller keeps a running list of insults that other scientists have hurled at her, either behind her back or to her face. She says she’s been called a “bitch” and “the most dangerous woman in the world,” who “should be stoned and burned at the stake.”

...Although Keller’s father enlisted his brood to tend the land—working them so hard that a neighbor once reported him—the family constantly teetered on the brink of bankruptcy. To put meat on the table, Keller’s mother once stewed up one of the cats the family kept on the farm. Another time, she gave an older daughter some fresh “mutton” as a gift—in actuality, Keller’s butchered pet dog.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: biancabosker; breakhertenure; catastrophism; deccantraps; dinosaurs; feminism; gertakeller; godsgravesglyphs; incompetent; kirkjohnson; kt; lucyvanpelt; mediawingofthednc; paleontology; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine; unfit; womeninscience
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L O N G, but fun, if you find the K-T boundary interesting.
1 posted on 08/12/2018 7:56:38 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Although Keller’s father enlisted his brood to tend the land—working them so hard that a neighbor once reported him—the family constantly teetered on the brink of bankruptcy. To put meat on the table, Keller’s mother once stewed up one of the cats the family kept on the farm. Another time, she gave an older daughter some fresh “mutton” as a gift—in actuality, Keller’s butchered pet dog.

...

That family should rightfully be cursed.


2 posted on 08/12/2018 8:02:21 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Interesting, but CAGW seems to be WAY more controversial.


3 posted on 08/12/2018 8:03:44 PM PDT by Paladin2 (no spelchek, no problem...)
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To: Moonman62

I don’t think I could ever eat a dog or a cat I owned. Someone else’s pet is another matter...if I were hungry enough.


4 posted on 08/12/2018 8:04:13 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: be-baw

Then you have never truly been crazy starved. Be grateful.


5 posted on 08/12/2018 8:08:54 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: narses

“Be grateful.”

I am. I suppose, like anyone, I would do what I had to, to survive.


6 posted on 08/12/2018 8:11:17 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: Moonman62

The Keller family sound like a right pack of total weirdos. If they had to kill their cats and dog to feed their kids, Old Man Keller should have kept his darn lederhosen ZIPPED.


7 posted on 08/12/2018 8:14:19 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Moonman62

Some say the reason the Norwegians succeed in Polar exploration... An Englishman would NEVER eat his dog.


8 posted on 08/12/2018 8:18:42 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (This Space for Rent)
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To: EinNYC; Darksheare

Ya can’t trust them Kellers...


9 posted on 08/12/2018 8:19:42 PM PDT by null and void (Equality is important, but quality is paramount.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Maybe settled science isn’t settled science.

I wonder if they have such fights about the Permian extinction.


10 posted on 08/12/2018 8:24:08 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: be-baw

I don’t think I could ever eat a dog or a cat I owned. Someone else’s pet is another matter...if I were hungry enough.

Reading about Shackleton’s being stranded in the ice.
The dogs were pets of the crew, they developed a workaround as the dogs were consumed.


11 posted on 08/12/2018 8:26:53 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (This Space for Rent)
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To: be-baw

You wouldnt live long if you ate my pet or anyone elses, i’d wager. i dont think youd say the small meal was worth it.


12 posted on 08/12/2018 8:33:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Those who set up an alternate reality can't afford to allow even the tiniest hint of actual reality to sneak in.

It's like that scene in Blazing Saddles where they let a jet contrail be visible in the distant blue sky. Turns the whole thing into a joke.

13 posted on 08/12/2018 8:36:46 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Moonman62

Maybe settled science isn’t settled science.

I wonder if they have such fights about the Permian extinction.

Just like the Jets and the Sharks, and not so much ‘footwork’.

For this fight, you find a ‘friendly’ journalist get your findings spread around.
With better funding, they would hire Fusion GPS.


14 posted on 08/12/2018 8:38:07 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (This Space for Rent)
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To: DUMBGRUNT; ETL
Then there's this (posted by ETL a few days ago in another thread) - http://news.berkeley.edu/2015/04/30/did-dinosaur-killing-asteroid-trigger-largest-lava-flows-on-earth/

Could they both be right?

The above link was posted in a thread stating that earthquakes on one side of the planet could trigger earthquakes on the other side: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3677932/posts

15 posted on 08/12/2018 8:46:23 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
but But BUT... SETTLED SCIENCE!!!
16 posted on 08/12/2018 8:48:16 PM PDT by Chode ( We’re America, Bitch!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I read the piece. What I saw were two groups of arrogant atheists yelling at each other and being More-Scientist-Than-Thou. I think BOTH of them are full of s#!t.


17 posted on 08/12/2018 8:48:29 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Moonman62

It’s called survival.


18 posted on 08/12/2018 8:53:00 PM PDT by llevrok (Vote while it's still legal.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Whatever we do, we must not let these maniacs rule over us. They’ll drive us to extinction with their egos.


19 posted on 08/12/2018 8:56:38 PM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
"..Shackleton’s..."

THAT's a totally wild story of complete human survival.

I find that few today could accomplish same.

20 posted on 08/12/2018 8:57:00 PM PDT by Paladin2 (no spelchek, no problem...)
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