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Telescope Group Chooses Canary Islands as Alternative to Hawaii
Voa news ^ | 1 Nov 2016

Posted on 11/01/2016 9:01:05 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

The team behind a project to build one of the world's largest telescopes said on Monday it has chosen Spain's Canary Islands in the Atlantic Ocean as a possible alternative to Hawaii.

The decision follows opposition from Native Hawaiians and environmentalists to plans for constructing the so-called Thirty Meter Telescope (TMT), which would cost $1.4 billion, at the Mauna Kea volcano on Hawaii's Big Island...

The designation of the Canary Islands as an alternative comes nearly a year after the Hawaii Supreme Court blocked construction of the telescope on the Big Island.

Native Hawaiians who oppose the project have said the proposed site for the new telescope on the Big Island is considered a spiritual temple and also is a burial ground, adding the project could harm those sacred lands.

(Excerpt) Read more at voanews.com ...


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Big Island is considered a spiritual temple

Only the welfare state keeps this bunch from starvation.

1 posted on 11/01/2016 9:01:05 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Gee. I hope the La Palma mega-tsunami doesn’t wipe them out.


2 posted on 11/01/2016 9:05:03 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Ok, i’ll just ask. Why do native people display such astonishing ignorance even though they live in todays world? Their ignorant superstitions shouldn’t be allowed to stand in the way of modern science and human endeavor.


3 posted on 11/01/2016 9:07:25 AM PDT by DesertRhino (November 8, America's Brexit!!!)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Mt. Teide is more than 12,000 feet high...


4 posted on 11/01/2016 9:08:37 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That’s ok. Canary Islands is a better location for the TMT anyway


5 posted on 11/01/2016 9:10:29 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

And they say Republicans are the people that reject science.


6 posted on 11/01/2016 9:11:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DesertRhino

They would say that your modern world sucks


7 posted on 11/01/2016 9:11:26 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Only the welfare state keeps this bunch from starvation.

Fer Sher. In the early '90s the last remaining big sugar operation in the big island was under intense competitive pressure. Management told everyone that they would have to take a pay cut (with management taking the largest cuts) to stay open. The opened their books to the workers to show that they really were in desperate straights. The workers voted almost unanimously NOT to take a pay cut. the sugar plant closed, and the workers were out of work - not to worry. They all went on welfare.

About 12 years ago a consortium of Japanese businesses bought a significant stretch of shoreline at the south end of the big island with the intent of making a resort area like on Maui. This would have brought a number of jobs and considerable prosperity to the area. These same jackasses went to court and blocked the construction. Meanwhile still sucking welfare from the taxes of those of us who actually work for a living. Hawaiians appear to be the laziest people in the USA, and naturally vote overwhelmingly Democrat.

8 posted on 11/01/2016 9:12:32 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: DesertRhino

I don’t know for sure, but I’m pretty sure no one wants it installed at Arlington. Which many of us consider a sacred burial site.


9 posted on 11/01/2016 9:13:45 AM PDT by knittnmom
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To: DesertRhino

Ok, i’ll just ask. Why do native people display such astonishing ignorance even though they live in todays world?

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I think what they want is some type of valuable compensation. Ignorance is just a tool.


10 posted on 11/01/2016 9:16:22 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Paine in the Neck

“Gee. I hope the La Palma mega-tsunami doesn’t wipe them out”.

Is that the same one that’s gonna wipe out our East Coast when that mountain falls into the Atlantic ??


11 posted on 11/01/2016 9:16:53 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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To: DesertRhino

Same reason some dogs lick themself.

Because they can.

That and some luddites finance them.


12 posted on 11/01/2016 9:17:25 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Mauna Kea already has an observatory, so this would merely be an expansion project on top of an isolated, desolate volcanic peak. This isn’t about spiritual burial grounds, it’s an extortion attempt by the locals.


13 posted on 11/01/2016 9:17:58 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Vote Trump. Defeat the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Reset America.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

30 meter?


14 posted on 11/01/2016 9:22:29 AM PDT by nikos1121 (I am way more deplorable than you.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Gezzz, how stupid is Hawaii?


15 posted on 11/01/2016 9:22:49 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Thirty year resident of the Big Island.

It's a conflation of paganism, anti-colonialism, environmentalism, and Leftist Marxist
Alinsky community activism that now deprives the citizens of
Hawaii of this investment.

After the excessively extravagant Hawaiian language & culture building was built
at UH Hilo, bringing in one of its only PhD programs (Hawaiian Studies) to the exclusion of a PhD program that would truly benefit our state, this mindset was assured.

Just as the Black Studies programs at mainland universities assured
an emerging Black radicalism, and ditto for women & homosexuals
etal, Hawaiian radicalism means we now pay the price for the loss
of two huge potential benefits to our islands: this magnificent telescope,
and the super ferries that would have transported people, vehicles, and goods inexpensively that was tragically removed a few years ago after just getting launched.
16 posted on 11/01/2016 9:23:34 AM PDT by jobim
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To: from occupied ga

Environmental determinism.
Tropical lethargy.
The Equator effect.


17 posted on 11/01/2016 9:29:26 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
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To: DesertRhino

They don’t deserve the telescope there anyway. It’d just finance more welfare for them.


18 posted on 11/01/2016 9:35:06 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: knittnmom

Arlington National Cemetery is well established in a small, well defined area of ~600 acres.

Hawaii (the big island) a large island of ~4,000 sq miles.


19 posted on 11/01/2016 9:35:42 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
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To: TADSLOS

Yes!
Also see #8 and 17.


20 posted on 11/01/2016 9:38:48 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
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