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The restaurant owner who’s ditching tips says she’s already lost servers over new policy
Bangor Daily News ^ | October 27, 2016 | Kathleen Pierce

Posted on 10/28/2016 5:39:33 AM PDT by wbill

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OK, Freepers, what say you? I've not worked in the Food Service Industry, so I've no idea on this....

Is it better to make $30-$40 / hour on good nights (and bupkis on bad ones...) - OR - get a steady $15/hr with some bennies? I know what I'd take, however, I just have an opinion with no experience to back it up.

1 posted on 10/28/2016 5:39:33 AM PDT by wbill
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It's a service industry. Tips "work."

That said, she'll get stability all right. Nothing more stable than being out of business. The ultimate cost reduction!

2 posted on 10/28/2016 5:41:26 AM PDT by Cboldt
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:-) Yup. That was my opinion, roughly. Ticking off your staff AND customers generally isn't a good rule.

Foolishness and arrogance are a bad combination.

3 posted on 10/28/2016 5:44:12 AM PDT by wbill
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Sounds like her goal is to transfer $15-$20 an hour from her waitresses to herself. And $15 an hour isn’t that much more than you can make in fast food around her (I’ve seen signs on doors offering $10-$11 for counter workers).


4 posted on 10/28/2016 5:44:19 AM PDT by PAR35
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Why will the waiters/waitresses hustle? They get 15 an hour fast or slow.


5 posted on 10/28/2016 5:44:38 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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Tax free dollars are the best type. Even income with wages and they pay more in taxes which lowers their spendable income. On the plus side, once they start paying more in taxes they tend to become more conservative.


6 posted on 10/28/2016 5:45:49 AM PDT by Boomer One ( ToUsesn)
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Why the forced 18 percent surcharge? Put the 18 percent in the menu items. Tips give incentive to both customer and server and involves freedom and liberty. Liberland hates that though and so does the Federal government.


7 posted on 10/28/2016 5:45:59 AM PDT by taterjay
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That would be the money quote.


8 posted on 10/28/2016 5:46:17 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck?Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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Though servers make a paltry $3.75 an hour, with gratuity a waiter/waitress at Tao Yuan can easily pull down “$30 to 40 an hour,” she said. “In some cases a server is making more than the cooks, the bartenders and even me.”

How many work hours can they make that kind of money? Every day, all day? I doubt it. Let's see that "$30 to 40 an hour" reduced to an average hourly wage.

9 posted on 10/28/2016 5:46:43 AM PDT by upchuck (Voter fraud is like an iceberg. 90% of it cannot be seen.)
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She will lose not only her servers but her customers, too.


10 posted on 10/28/2016 5:46:57 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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I like the option of adjusting my tips (I am on the generous side.) I find tipping far more personal. I WAS a cook in my youth, and the waitresses usually made more than I did. They earned every penny.


11 posted on 10/28/2016 5:46:58 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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If nothing is done within a few years all restaurants will have to do this to comply with Federal labor law.


12 posted on 10/28/2016 5:47:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Sounds like her goal is to transfer $15-$20 an hour from her waitresses to herself

Hmmm. Didn't think about that. That money is going somewhere, would be interesting to see if menu prices went up as the tips went down. If that's the case, you're *absolutely* correct.

13 posted on 10/28/2016 5:48:13 AM PDT by wbill
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Libs want the USA to be a “living wage” Europe no matter what the cost. It’s for the chil’run.


14 posted on 10/28/2016 5:48:25 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Vote Trump. Defeat the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Reset America.)
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I’ve known waiters/waitresses who made great money, and it was never a surprise. Those are the ones who brighten my day even bumping into them at the grocery store. I’ve known others who said they couldn’t get bus fare in tips, and again, that’s what I expected them to earn. Some people do dramatically better at serving others, and they deserve to earn more. I like having the incentive for wait staff to provide that excellent service and the reward for those who deliver.

I rarely eat out, but when I do, I rarely tip 15%. Good service often earns 25% or more. Bad service often earns 5%. I’m perfectly capable of cooking, so eating out is about the experience. I like rewarding those who make that experience what I’m looking for, and I don’t like no-tip restaurants.


15 posted on 10/28/2016 5:48:26 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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This is one I have been struggling with. I tend to use 20% as my starting point in tipping, but why should I tip when the server is making a “living wage?” Aside from the fact my meal is probably costing more, with a starting point of $15 per hour, add tips, these servers are making extremely good money.


16 posted on 10/28/2016 5:48:52 AM PDT by Yogafist
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Exactly..Once the taxes kick in for that higher wage,those tax free tips will be looking real good....


17 posted on 10/28/2016 5:49:55 AM PDT by Hambone 1934
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The advantage of tips for the restaurant is it reduces the employee cost. With tip income the employee is taking on some of the owners’ risk in running a restaurant; their pay has a fixed portion (a cost to the business) and a variable portion which, in a way, reflects the business’s success or failure.


18 posted on 10/28/2016 5:51:09 AM PDT by captain_dave
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I hate paying tips. As a customer, I don’t evaluate the cook so it isn’t my job to evaluate the server. That’s the manager’s job just like it is with every other job in the workforce. Employees represent the company. If they do a good job, the management can give them a raise. If they do a bad job and lose customers then the management can give them a pink slip. Customers aren’t getting paid to be the management.

We all knew the $15/hr wasn’t going to satisfy them. We were right. The wage is chicken feed. They don’t work for the wage, they work for the tips. The wage could be $0 and they’d still show up for work to get that $40/hr.


19 posted on 10/28/2016 5:52:23 AM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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#ForwardTogether


20 posted on 10/28/2016 5:53:12 AM PDT by libertarian27 (FR Cookbooks - On Profile Page)
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