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The restaurant owner who’s ditching tips says she’s already lost servers over new policy
Bangor Daily News ^ | October 27, 2016 | Kathleen Pierce

Posted on 10/28/2016 5:39:33 AM PDT by wbill

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To: wbill

[ She is looking at successful models by NYC restaurateur Danny Meyer and joins the soon-to-open Old Port takeout spot Baristas and Bites.]

Ummm... people (at least smart ones) don’t tip for take out in general!! Stupid comparison!


21 posted on 10/28/2016 5:54:01 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: Cboldt

Over on Reddit, its always a perennial way to bash the U.S. By moaning about the tips system like it was slavery.

So many dopes assuming that servers were getting stiffed every night or that adding a % to a number is “hard”, or just cheap jerks.


22 posted on 10/28/2016 5:54:54 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Yogafist
Most of the restaurants that I patronize, I'm a "regular" customer. BBQ joints and diners, mostly. I tip well(30, 40 50%), because I know the waitresses, like them, and see them regularly.

And, because bacon, eggs and coffee comes to 4 bucks and I'm not going to insult someone with a 60c (15%) tip.

I suppose if I lived in the city and was shelling out $100 for a meal, I'd tip differently.

23 posted on 10/28/2016 5:55:06 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

My son has a friend who works as a bartender in NYC. She’s extremely pretty and personable and on a good night she can pull in $800+ in tips. I wonder how she’d feel about this idea?


24 posted on 10/28/2016 5:56:59 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act". George Orwell.)
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To: xzins

I am a waitress-we wouldn’t do what we do without tips. I’ve seen many lazy employees making $10-15/hour, but I’ve never seen a server who doesn’t work as hard as they can, with a good attitude and a smile, to keep their customers happy. Tips are a huge motivator and account for about 3/4 of my income. Take the tips away and I’m gone. There are far less stressful ways to earn $15/hour.


25 posted on 10/28/2016 5:57:07 AM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: wbill
assuming customers will still tip and will still tip the same amounts\percents - probably not with an 18% forced tips "surcharge" added to the bill.
26 posted on 10/28/2016 5:58:13 AM PDT by stylin19a (obama = Fredo smart)
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To: Yogafist

That’s why I’m worried that Minnesota will go to a $15 min wage. My income as a server would go down.


27 posted on 10/28/2016 5:59:34 AM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: wbill

I will always remember the time a “server” dumped a basket of French fries in my friend’s lap and didn’t even bother to apologize. And no, she didn’t get a tip.

I would hate to have to pay an extra 18% for that kind of service.


28 posted on 10/28/2016 6:00:00 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: wbill

On the Flyertalk website, a travel-oriented site, there are often tipping threads. I always get upset when people argue against tipping the bartender in airport lounges. I always respond “Dude, if you’re well off enough to be in an airport lounge you can afford to put a buck on the bar to help some working man or woman feed their family.”


29 posted on 10/28/2016 6:01:02 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act". George Orwell.)
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To: wbill

I try to tip well. Good service? I tip better no mater the quality of the meal.

Bad service... the bare minimum? whatever that is, I have a sliding scale.

A good restaurant with good service should garner a server a nice chunk of change and I prefer that. The waitresses (or ‘gag’, waiters) Are most always eager to please and I like paying for that type of service.

Just a secondary note..... rich or poor...... educated or ignorant.... black folks don’t tip. Not trying to be racist. I’m NOT racist. Just an Observation on my part from decades of having lunch with coworkers.


30 posted on 10/28/2016 6:03:09 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Hambone 1934
Exactly..Once the taxes kick in for that higher wage,those tax free tips will be looking real good....

Here, the restaurants take 8% of the check totals witholding for waitress tips. Its supposedly a federal law.
31 posted on 10/28/2016 6:03:09 AM PDT by RW_Whacko (RW_Whacko)
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To: jalisco555

If you want to be a big shot, you gotta throw some money around.


32 posted on 10/28/2016 6:03:09 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: wbill

Actually the key in her scheme is the attempt to make things ....

More FAIR.

She thinks it isn’t fair the people who are the “face” of her business make more than the cooks or even herself! Her marketing is mis guided. If the public face of your business gives bad service...you will be out of business. She doesn’t grasp the value or skills of her servers. From providing good customer service, knowing the menu and drinks etc. she thinks all they do is shlep food.

All in the name of someone else’s idea of “fairness”


33 posted on 10/28/2016 6:03:36 AM PDT by EBH (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: wbill

Actually the key in her scheme is the attempt to make things ....

More FAIR.

She thinks it isn’t fair the people who are the “face” of her business make more than the cooks or even herself! Her marketing is mis guided. If the public face of your business gives bad service...you will be out of business. She doesn’t grasp the value or skills of her servers. From providing good customer service, knowing the menu and drinks etc. she thinks all they do is shlep food.

All in the name of someone else’s idea of “fairness”


34 posted on 10/28/2016 6:03:36 AM PDT by EBH (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: wbill
would be interesting to see if menu prices went up as the tips went down.

From the excerpt: "and tack on an 18 percent surcharge on checks." So yes, prices went up 18%.

35 posted on 10/28/2016 6:04:27 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: wbill
“In some cases a server is making more than the cooks, the bartenders and even me.”

Envying one's loyal employees is so déclassé...

36 posted on 10/28/2016 6:05:38 AM PDT by null and void (Keep a sexual predator out of the White House, don't vote for his wife!)
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To: wbill

The waitress I know would all rather get the tips, even in Waffle House. Those who do not make much on tips all hope to make more and would not like to go to salary. For some of them, the idea is that they will get better at. For others, getting a higher hourly reduces their welfare benefits. Either way it represents a loss of income.


37 posted on 10/28/2016 6:06:06 AM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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To: jalisco555
Funny story.... Had an after-work bar that I frequented at my old job. Bartender was young, cute and personable (of course, that had NO influence at all on my attendance.....)

Anyhoo, was sitting around the bar yakking with her one evening when a bunch of college frat guys walked in and sat down in a booth. She said to me, "Just a second.", then tied off her shirt and adjusted things so that it looked like she added a cup size or two. :-) Then, she went over and waited on them.

She came back to the bar. I must've been looking at her funny, because she said, "What? I just doubled my tips."

38 posted on 10/28/2016 6:06:31 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

No guy wants to look cheap in front of a pretty girl!


39 posted on 10/28/2016 6:09:02 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act". George Orwell.)
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To: PAR35
"and tack on an 18 percent surcharge on checks." So yes, prices went up 18%.

heh heh heh. Missed that. Actually, read it as "18% in tips". But a "surcharge" is not a "tip". Wonder if that goes in her pocket, or the staff's?

40 posted on 10/28/2016 6:09:31 AM PDT by wbill
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