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Twin Peaks lawyer: Stop legal chaos, start biker trials today (UPDATE)[Waco]
Houston Chronicle ^ | November 16, 2015 | Dane Schiller

Posted on 12/28/2015 6:55:10 AM PST by don-o

A Houston lawyer, representing a biker charged in the Twin Peaks clash, traveled to Waco Monday with a bold offer that might be too intriguing for a judge not to indulge him.

The plan, described in a motion filed in McLennan County, stands to save the 105 other defendants as well as prosecutors, police, and dozens of other lawyers and courthouse personnel from a massive, expensive legal boondoggle.

As lawyer Paul Looney sees it, there is no way the county can handle the cost, time and logistics of prosecuting 106, and maybe more bikers, especially if most of them refuse plea agreements and demand trials.

Even if the county held a trial a week _ week in and week out without a break _ it would be about two years before all would be resolved, he said.

Instead, Looney holds out his client, who he said is ready to stand trial immediately without a change of venue or any more evidence, and serve as a test case for everyone on all sides of a melee that left nine people dead and at least 18 wounded.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.chron.com ...


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To: jimt; TexasGator

Lol...and yours is a slur on intelligent people named Jim.

Autopsies in this case have been out for over a month...


41 posted on 12/28/2015 3:47:29 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: kiryandil

Wrong SFB...the police in this case fired twelve rounds.


42 posted on 12/28/2015 3:54:48 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Nervous Tick
There is no monolithic "the defense".

I would be shocked if there are not joint defense agreements among most of the defendants and their attorneys.

43 posted on 12/28/2015 4:01:25 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: TexasGator
Show up for a gang fight armed to the teeth and you just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time ...

From media accounts it seems likely that a fight broke out between rival gang members that accelerated into a gun fight when someone opened fire. The local police (who were already there in mass) then opened fire on the gang members. Many people who were charged were not armed and did nothing more than duck for cover when the shooting started.

Of course, I was not there. I always start from the assumption that most of what the lamestream media prints about anything is at best distorted or at worst outright lies. So there is no telling what really happened until there is at least one trial.

44 posted on 12/28/2015 4:07:12 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

“Many people who were charged were not armed and did nothing more than duck for cover when the shooting started. “

hmmm ... 475 / 200 = 2.4 weapons per person.

“The Waco Police Department said in a released that 475 weapons were seized following the incident. The number includes 151 firearms, 12 of which were long guns. Other weapons recovered included knives, brass knuckles, batons, tomahawks, a hatchet, stun guns, bats, clubs, a machete, a pipe, an ax, pepper spray and a chain. “

http://kxan.com/2015/06/12/waco-pd-151-guns-recovered-after-biker-shootout/


45 posted on 12/28/2015 4:24:38 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: mac_truck
mac_truck wrote: Wrong SFB...the police in this case fired twelve rounds.

"A gag order has made the police version of events the only real version we've had to discuss."

Well, SFB - when Reyna, who apparently has something or three to hide, lifts his gag order, then we'll talk about what we know.

46 posted on 12/28/2015 5:30:14 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kiryandil; TexasGator; mac_truck

TG and MT do a good job of keeping these threads from being productive. It was pretty good for the month one of them was gone.

When this is all settled he will go back into the hole he crawled out of and not be heard from again unless a waco thread surfaces.


47 posted on 12/28/2015 5:47:01 PM PST by Boomer
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To: mac_truck
the police in this case fired twelve rounds.

Has this been verified anywhere other than from Brent Stroman's statement (which was subsequently removed from the Waco PD facebook page)?

Enough reporters grabbed that statement and repeated it, so it is on the record, but the PD removed his original. I never saw a reason given for that.

48 posted on 12/28/2015 6:28:20 PM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o; mac_truck

This hasn’t been taken down.


Twin Peaks Restaurants

May 18 ·
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From Twin Peaks Corporate Office:
We are in the people business and the safety of the employees and guests in our restaurants is priority one. Unfortunately the management team of the franchised restaurant in Waco chose to ignore the warnings and advice from both the police and our company, and did not uphold the high security standards we have in place to ensure everyone is safe at our restaurants. We cannot tolerate the actions of this relatively new franchisee and have revoked their franchise agreement effectively immediately. Our sympathies continue to be with the families of those who died and are very thankful no employees, guests, police officers or bystanders were hurt or injured.

https://www.facebook.com/twinpeaksrestaurant/posts/10153952026622366


49 posted on 12/29/2015 7:28:22 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Boomer; mac_truck

Perhaps a little perspective is due here:

“There are always fights on bike nights, so we expected the usual,” commented Sara, a waitress who according to her Facebook page is also a college student and mother.”

http://news.yahoo.com/twin-peaks-waitresses-chronicle-texas-biker-bloodshed—uncertain-futures-013656110.html


50 posted on 12/29/2015 7:38:50 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Boomer

Another tidbit:

“Some have claimed that the defendants in this case were carrying firearms legally, according to state law, but the Penal Code is clear; anyone who is a known member of a gang in Texas, whether biker gang or otherwise, is prohibited from carrying a weapon at any time.”

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Twin-Peaks—Bikers-Mount-PR-Offensive-But-Police-Cant-Respond-309661331.html


51 posted on 12/29/2015 7:42:18 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

More:

“The two groups identified as major actors in the Twin Peaks incident, the Bandidos and the Cossacks, are named as “criminal gangs” by the U.S. Department of Justice and the Texas Department of Public Safety classifies the Bandidos as a street gang.”


52 posted on 12/29/2015 7:43:10 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: jimt

That’s because like many fakirs here they appropriate Texan or southern nicks for credibility

Who knows who they actually are or where from


53 posted on 12/29/2015 7:47:43 AM PST by wardaddy (Save western civilization and save the world....lose it & it's a dark ages unknown to human history)
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To: wardaddy

When you cannot counter the message, attack the messenger?


54 posted on 12/29/2015 7:59:07 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: don-o; All
Has this been verified anywhere other than from Brent Stroman's statement (which was subsequently removed from the Waco PD facebook page)?

The Chief's news conference and written statement are still available through tradition outlets, if not still on social media. You'd have to be really stupid to think Waco PD was trying to erase that record.

-btw I remember similar comments from your side being made months ago when prosecutors stated there was video evidence of bikers executing bikers....but we now know that 65yo Marine vet Jesse Rodriguez was shot in the face by one Cossack while being held down by another Cossack...a heinous act of savagery and cowardice that should put to rest any notion on your part that these dirt-bags are worthy of support.

55 posted on 12/29/2015 8:14:22 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: TexasGator
and the Cossacks, are named as "criminal gangs" by the U.S. Department of Justice

Do you have a link for this? I did not see the Cossacks listed by the Dept. of Justice.

56 posted on 12/29/2015 8:17:31 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: kiryandil
How long is this fantasy going to continue that the police killed all the dead bikers at Twin Peaks, or that this was all a set up by the police. The Cossacks and Bandidos had been going at each other in that region for months. It just took a big enough collection of them all in one place to have it go high order.

In the film of the parking lot, how many bikers do you see engaging police? How many bikers do you see fighting each other?

The police did not "hose the place down with lead indiscriminately. If they had there would have been a lot more bodies.

57 posted on 12/29/2015 8:55:35 AM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: mac_truck
-btw I remember similar comments from your side being made

Your mistake is that I have a "side." Your mistake is that I agree, by default, with any and every one who questions the narrative.

So, once again: Anyone who committed crimes that day should be tried, and if convicted, punished. Who shot Jesse R.? Who held him down? Does Reyna know? Where is the indictment for that alleged crime?

...put to rest any notion on your part that these dirt-bags are worthy of support.

Who, exactly, are these dirt bags? What, exactly, IS a dirt bag? Is being a dirt bag a crime?

My position, from the beginning, has been to question how and why American citizens can be deprived of their liberty. What conditions are justifiable for that? The Constitution contains the standards which must be applied for that deprivation. (I do not see anything about how dirt bags are exceptions.)

58 posted on 12/29/2015 9:24:39 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o
Your mistake is that I have a "side."


59 posted on 12/29/2015 10:05:01 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: don-o

“Your mistake is that I have a “side.” Your mistake is that I agree, by default, with any and every one who questions the narrative.”

hmmmm. You have come after everyone that is NOT on the gangsters sides have you EVER gone after anyone that has spewed ganster disinformation?


60 posted on 12/29/2015 10:13:42 AM PST by TexasGator
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